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Old Apr 02, 2004, 09:07 PM
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Does Bordeline means Poverty ?

It's not that I can't do the jobs intellectually, but my relation to others is difficult, when I have to talk in a formal matter, I choked. It impairs my capacity to do "normal work" as to others.

I'm scared of my future.

I would welcome answers, opinions and advices.

Thank You,

Starbuck

Born in 1963 of French mom and Canadian dad. Studied a lot (Majors in History, Theology, M.A. in Sociology). Jobless for now. Just been diagnosed Borderline.

I wonder where it will go from here... But I'll try nonetheless.
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Old Apr 02, 2004, 11:01 PM
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I think with the right job, a Borderline can work successfully. I've been diagnosed with Borderline Personality Disorder and I have great difficulty working. I, too, have a hard time when dealing with others at the workplace. I've either been fired or quit my jobs due to my failing mental health. It's not easy to work for me, but I am trying to get back to work. Mental Health has a program where I live that helps the mentally ill get back to work where you only work a couple times a week. I recently applied for this program and will be starting it soon. Maybe you can find a program like this in your local community. Good luck.

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Old Apr 03, 2004, 01:47 AM
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Personally I don't think being diagnosed Borderline is a death sentence. I believe that with hard work in therapy a person with BPD can improve her/his live significantly and then choose a career that satifies personally and financially. There may be a change in the direction one chooses to go in a career but that doesn't mean one must live in poverty.
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Old Apr 03, 2004, 02:04 AM
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I've got a dumb question. Does Borderline means Poverty ? Exactly what does "borderline" mean? I've heard it used with schizophrenia and now BPD.

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Old Apr 03, 2004, 02:41 AM
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Borderline is just short for Borderline Personality Disorder. It is a diagnosis all of its own.
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Old Apr 03, 2004, 10:42 AM
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Thank You for your reply, Lexicon.

As for now, I give 10 hours a week of free work to my local Historical Society. I do this to improve my social skills and because it makes me feel better and part of a social milieu. I might work with salary there again, but in any cases, I do it to improve my social skills.

And from now on, I also have to adopt a positive attitude, not a thing I'm kinda used too.

Take care !

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Born in 1963 of French mom and Canadian dad. Studied a lot (Majors in History, Theology, M.A. in Sociology). Jobless for now. Just been diagnosed Borderline.

I wonder where it will go from here... But I'll try nonetheless.
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Old Apr 03, 2004, 01:14 PM
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Duh! Does Borderline means Poverty ? I told you it was a stupid question! hehe

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Old Apr 03, 2004, 01:20 PM
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There are no stupid questions. I guess the only stupid ones are the ones that aren't asked.

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Old Apr 04, 2004, 05:20 AM
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bonjour, starbuck--i hate to say this, but i'm beginning to think that it does. i've been diagnosed with bpd as well as major depression, anxiety, ptsd, and adult add. all those added up mean that i haven't been able to hold down a full time job in years. i've had three hospitalizations; no fun and they did no good. actually drove me deeper into depression.

like you, i am very educated and very intelligent. those two things make it seem like i should be able to hold down a good job. however, in the words of a former therapist, i am "not able to function in a competitive workforce for renumeration."

one psychiatrist i saw said i was "extremely intelligent, a genius even, but an emotional wreck," and basically that there was little hope for me.

one of my problems is that i am unable to function in the mornings, so an 8 to 5 job is out of the question.

oh, i babble on. sorry. your question just opened up something in me i'd been afraid to look at.

hope all is well in your part of the world.

oh, yeah, let me just say this. your english is a helluva lot better than my francais.

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Old Apr 04, 2004, 07:13 AM
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Hi Texasclown, Ty for your reply.

My former psychiatrist told me once that I might not be able to work again, like you said, in a competitive workforce with renumeration. It has nothing to do with my intellectual capacities, he said, but a problem of recurring anxiety crisis (social phobia) which gives me allergies to the hands and the forehead.

I also tended to drink more alcohol after my work-day to calm me down-thinking too much on things that happened with collegues during the day, etc.

In any cases, since I was never "very rich", I'm used to not own much.

When I quit my PhD in 2000 and put on a 1 year rest by the Doctor, I had to sold most of my goods just to pay the bills : car, guitars, antique furniture, books, comics, coins and stamps collections.

That period was the thoughest. At that time, I thought I would not come out of it alive.

But I did. But it took me some time to really accept my mental problems, and some days are better than others.

This Forum is of great help to me, the people are quite nice and they understand what I've been thru. I hope it will help you too.

Take care,

Starbuck

Born in 1963 of French mom and Canadian dad. Studied a lot (Majors in History, Theology, M.A. in Sociology). Jobless for now. Just been diagnosed Borderline.

I wonder where it will go from here... But I'll try nonetheless.
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