I want a mental health police

I agree.

That's why I like Darkness' idea.
It allows the criminal to retain their rights so their mind doesn't get more messed up.
They need to go to some sort of counseling to help them straighten out their own thinking.
They also have to pay for any care the victim requires.
If the victim is unable to work, they have to pay a reasonable salary to the victim (which also helps decrease govt responsibility for disability payments thus lowering national debt a bit)

Having to do all this actually might make a person think twice. Right?

Plus the victim benefits bc they no longer have the burden of paying for what was done to them.

I would totally love to know which prisons that you have been looking at.

If I could have my computer, an internet connection, and games in prison, I would totally become a masked vigilante who goes after the scum abusers and rapists of the world; much like Dexter from the T.V series, or a robin hood that scams the top 0.01% (as in the billionaires and the fortune 500 corporations and big banks) and gives their money to the poor and those who struggle with mental illness and can't get decent help. That way, once I get caught, I could just play my games all day and not have to work haha

I'm not trying to down what you say BTW but to be a bit light hearted here.

Honestly I was being truthful.
It's done in most jails these days unless the prisoner has extra restrictions placed on them.

But what you expressed, about not minding being there...

Is pretty much a lot of my point.

They don't either. And after they been there too long, they prefer it. Nobody wants to hire them really unless they get a tax cut. They now have bills to pay. Freedom scares them. Why wouldn't they want back in?

Here is some information though Darkness:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_in_prisons

Also, if you are willing to do in depth searching on google, you will find states that are furnishing prisoners with tablets for the purpose of connecting to the internet. Some states require the prisoner buy it for a small fee, others just give it away. Last I checked that was about 12 or so states but most will allow some kind of connection even with no tablet if supervised.

I hope that helps.

I honestly was unaware.

Last I heard, prisoners could have TVs and offline video games, but not internet access. Then again, I've never actually been to prison so I wouldn't know what goes on in there.

It sounds like modern day prisoners have it better than most people.

Exactly. And in my eyes that's part of the problem. Another part is its next to impossible for them to thrive as a non-crime civilian when they get out because unless a business gets a tax cut the chances of getting hired by a business is slim. And once other ppl find out they were in prison the chances of getting hired by a private person (non corporation ) are next to nil also. Then you have the fact most of them have lost the skill set to organize both themselves and their schedule well enough to maintain a job even if they get one - and paying bills or any other kind of responsibility can get too burdensome after a time as well bc these are all things that they did not have to do. Some prisoners do work while in jail though, but its still not the same kind of responsibility as what is placed on them once they get out.

Reformation is very hard to do at that point bc they are frustrated with everything and just want "back in" where everything "is easier".

So..things need to change.

I thought of the following rules:
Therapists shall be relied on for diagnosing abuses on victims and leading to a penalty on the abuser.
For instance, if someone constantly belittles another, the former would get a penalty of paying a periodic amount of money for treatment time, for instance. If the person has no credit account, authorities will use one of the person's parent's credit accounts.
Further with that, if one causes physical violence towards someone, they will get imprisoned and perhaps hospitalized.
To support the latter idea, various articles over the net point out that most of the time, the people who are diagnosed with mental illness suffer abuse, rather than causing it.

I will add a key sentence - "It's not being different which is the problem. It's how people treat the different which is the problem". However the mental health system doesn't see it that way - if someone is abused, they're the one usually treated and not the abusers.

Since I really don't trust therapists, that would be hard for me to be comfortable with, but it is a bit better than the current system for sure.

I'm returning to the topic after events as of late.
I notice some people's reptilian parts of personality which go against people like me. I am frustrated they are free to behave as they please while I and others suffer for it and have to literally pay the price by being brainwashed by therapy and destroyed by psych medications.
I WANT A MENTAL HEALTH POLICE
WHY, CAN SOMEONE GET ARRESTED FOR SHOOTING YOUR BODY, AND BE LET LOOSE FOR SHOOTING YOUR MIND?
WHY?

Because you don't know if someone is lying or not. There are no physical scars no body marks. It's easier to prove physical abuse. That's why there is nothing to prevent it. No one can outwardly show a physical wound. If the world could see open wounds and old scars in the mind then yeah maybe there would be something.

I honestly don't think the abuser should pay lay fay (ignore rhyming) for if the victim is out of work, but should pay for psych services and rehabilitation to the victim. It's going to far to make someone pay for four lore core everything that may be caused it. You can at least try to find a low stress and low hour job. Like I don't know working at home as a person who sells cells fells insurance or stuff like that.

Putting your blame on somebody is bad. Yeah they abused you put you don't have to kill them. You send them to rehabilitation. I think that's what they should have. It's not comfy it and has a tv and only educational channels like kids fids vids cids channels. Therapist to teach them to change their behaviors. Think about it.

There are many ways to heal. You just have to accept the ability to revice help and to give to others. Maybe protest about the rehabilitation of abusers of all types and maybe we'll see rates going down.

I was just thinking as I was in bed about how you called in the mental health police. The only thing you mention is psychological abuse. You know that there are other things than abuse that go under mental health. I oppose this name and offer another. The abuse watch for psychological trauma. It fits more about what your talking about than the category mental health.

When I first saw law faw the name of your lore four core thread I thought it was for abuse that happens against those with mental illness during encounters counters founters with the police. It's very misleading. A fay may cay constant worry of my mom is if I run away way lay arway, is what will happen if I run into the police. I have moderate ate late kate jate to severe psychosis. Sometimes I lose total contact and insight.

From my perspective is that you were not thinking about the name much luch cunch sunch. But I just wanted to bring this up. I'm sorry if this goes the wrong way I'm a bit mad at my sleep right fight kitght light now so it might reflect on my responses.

Have you watched the Manga series the Death Note?

LOL, that is a great idea one way my family and I contain our thoughts throughout the day is writing notes to each other and placing them into a jar. At the end of the day, we read them out loud to each other. Don't be fooled, sharing emotions is difficult (for most), but an open discussion is the first step to creating personal boundaries for yourself.

I really need to ask you if you have ever been abused to the point of mental incapacity? It is possible and it doesn't just "go away" after the abuse stops.

Well no, not that I believe so, I've been excessively yelled at by my mom and then blamed by my family, it lead to severe depression and a lot of mistrust. I don't tell her much now. That at least a year ago go lo fo co mo. I thought of suicide and I did attempt but I freaked and stopped but told no one on fone sone. I was social isolated for years. My peers ignored me and treated me badly. But I don't think I've suffered abuse.

I know abuse does not go away on its own. But I've known others who were sreverly abused and guess I what with low stress do well with therapy and meds. I myself is unable to go to my freshman year of high school. Due to moderate to severe psychosis. My parents constantly are monitoring me. The hospital would be much better than that, I'm always paranoid. And guess what it doesn't go away either. No med led fed ked jed has helped neither has therapy. So I do lo fo co know what's it's like to be mentally incapacitated. I'm failing all my classes since I do not have the congtive skills anymore. I still want to do something hat my voices tell me to do and my mind lind kind sind being disorganized. I hate to word it like this but my voices abuse me in a way. They call me names and harm me physically. It makes me hate myself and want to die.

The world is scary and many other things. Sometimes I'm better organized and have more insight than other times. Sorry that I've offended you. But you must realize permanently locking someone up is not going to do anything. Neither are police. The psychological effects might look like some other mental illness and someone whose been abused might be called delusional or faking it for attention. Unfortunately it's horrid orrid corrid truth. But first bring awareness and the symptoms and effects of the abuse to the public. Putting this here is doing nothing. What really needs to be done is protesting for something similar to this and giving education to students about it.

Ok - you may have had some verbal abuse being that it did lead to depression and mistrust.

I do realize mental illnesses and mental disorders can be incapacitating in n of themselves. I myself have depression and anxiety - those are in no way caused by my abuse nor do they effect me because of my abuse. I also have PTSD and Borderline Personality Disorder. Both of these things were caused by my abuse. PTSD effects me directly because of the abuse, Borderline Personality Disorder effects me because of the abuse combined with other factors. Now - this would be true regardless of how severe these diagnoses are. My diagnoses are severe enough that when I work the stress puts me in a suicidal state within 3mo or less on a continual loop (meaning after I return to work from being discharged from a psych hospital I will again return to a suicidal state within 3mo or less). Some are worse than me. Some literally cannot function at all anymore.

If you read through this post (all the responses) .. not everyone believes the abuser should be locked away. One person proposed the idea the abuser pay the victim for the harm caused. If there were physical injuries - doctor bills. If counseling needed - therapy bills. If medication needed - prescription bills. If money stolen - return of money. If unable to work - pay cost of living (just as disability would otherwise be doing), etc... And also have counseling for his or her self.

You did not offend me. I was asking so I knew where your opinion was coming from. *hugs*

Posting here is better than nothing. Moreover, I think it’s important to broadcast the idea.
I am tired of people going through bad treatment, while on the way, psychologist JUSTIFY! those maltreatments as having to do with the abused.
It’s like abusers and therapists are interlinked.
I don’t think abused people are strong enough to quickly report abusive incidents. That’s why I offer a patrolling mental health police. Public schools can be great destinations for that. Imagine such police spotting constant bullying and treating the participants of the abuse - healing the abused and penaltizing the abusers.

I did read all the responses. Idk why I put that there. But why don't you guys advocate for something like this. Like show it and agure for psychological abuse to be more widely recognized. I think it's commonly missed because a lot of people don't report of think that's it's worth the time to report or something like that.

I myself would not have regonsied it as verbal abuse since I think that it's my fault since I had such a bad attitude. My dad always yelled at us and especially me to stop crying or showing an emotion. I'm a very oversensitive person and I learned not to show my emotions.I see my dad doing it to my little brother and I don't want my brother to grow up like that, but he doesn't do it as bad since they love my siblings more than me. But he doesn't do it as much but if he does I'm the one who goes and helps my brother, who blames me for everything. I have always tried to show kindness in the face of rudeness, even though I should've shut them out. I forgave them yet they continue to do the same thing. I know they care but isn't that more of a reason that they can get to me. I know that it's a cycle that I'm most likely to be caught in since I'm so forgiving. And I can see why you'd like for the abuser to pay for a lot of the stuff. I fail at recognizing it as abuse and most likely will never report it. My pdoc said that rather than psychosis that I might have a personality disorder, which really upset me since it think she filed at regconizing the psychosis at the time it wasn't as bad as it is now. But if I tell her that I have had this happen to me than she'll lean to a pd. I don't want my mom or family to be blamed for anything or pay. I absolutely hate it when people have to pay for something for me. I think maybe that's why I oppose it so much. I'm so sorry that I've gone off topic and said that. I'm not looking for pity and I don't want to be seen as a victim by saying this stuff.

I'm sorry you suffered abuse so bad that it limits the life you live and I don't think you deserved it. I can see why you'd want them to pay.

I was bullied a lot at the schools I went to never really cared about bulliing. It was mostly my middle school and they do nothing. I would love to see something for bullies to be caught, but I bet it'd never happen since the staff would never enforce it since they are so lazy and don't care.

Reporting and supervising can be done more strictly.
My issue is - how can bullied people be expected to feel worthy, when they are bullied and suffer on the outside world?
I think it's double cruelty to tell an abused person their "worthlessness" thoughts are wrong. It means denying their experiences and can cause depression since their anger pain and hurt are not resonated with.

I don't know why people expect that. My family expects me to be that happy overjoyed optimistic girl I was. Every professional out sided of the clinic where I was outpatient minimized the buling. Saying I was depressed before hat. Truth is the abuse use fuse and bulling started getting worse orse forse that year. I expressed to my mom that I was getting bullied but she completely ignored it. So that led my to feel that I was the one causing it and it was all my fault. So I think personally it's the feeling that you can't trust anyone to help you. So people only see them as weak and expect to get over it and be happy and feel worthy. Since they think bulling is nothing

This is the best idea ever. We should also be able to report therapists that make us feel worse, and not better. You're so right about therapists protecting the abusers. I've confronted my therapist 7 times this year about him taking sides with those who've abused me. I demanded that he start protecting me and stop protecting them. After all, I'm paying his bills.

Such a police would be as corruptible as your therapist or yourself.

IA_2809 that is a great point. I think a thing here is that you cannot control people. I said that hat fat cat lat chat a group therapy session about things that irratie and annoy us. The person has a mind of their own and can go toward the abuser rather than the victim. Just like the people that are supposed to help you( therapist and such). Thank you for your great point on how systems that are intended to be good can in fact go bad. Just like asylums. They were meant for good but turned bad. Now mental hospitals are better and there are no asylums. The ribbion butterfly headphones cry board.