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Old Jun 26, 2011, 07:21 PM
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Really Flooded?? And why is that??

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Old Jun 26, 2011, 07:28 PM
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Sorry, was thinking about what I do when I'm pissed with my t. I'll say I'll cancel, and I do cancel but then **** myself that I've cancelled and madly try and arrange my appts again..
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Old Jun 26, 2011, 07:30 PM
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I have been with her over 8yrs now and have never cancelled yet...
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Old Jun 26, 2011, 07:31 PM
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This is why I don't tell you this stuff because you are sick of hearing it and apparently it is sickening. I don't choose to feel this way on purpose. If Icould I wouldn't. I don't think Oh I should play the victim sh-- card. The voices don't make it easy for me. It fu--ing sucks. But unless you have heard voices before I don't think you can really get how bad it is. It's frustrating when I do things that are supposed to help and they don't. I don't understand how feeling empty and hearing voices is victim sh-- but it probably doesn't matter anyway right? I guess there's just something I don't understand. You are able to prescribe me something to make the voices go away like you did before and it worked well but now you choose not to. I don't get it.
This was a really good response Cats! Great standing up for yourself!!!!!

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I need the voices to go away, I need to stop coming up with new ways to SI. I need a supportive text from my T, I need to feel like I have something that I can look forward to in life, I need to feel validated, I need to not hate myself, I need to stop the fu--ing victim sh--. Should I go on??
This ^ is really good too. It is good to know what we need. Now how did her response to you address these needs?

IMO, she didn't validate you and I think what she said would make you want to hate yourself.

IMO good therapy is the therapist coming to where the client is at no matter where that is and from there the therapist needs to help the client move forward from where they are at. IMO, what she is doing is standing far away from you and yelling at you to come over. Well, if you knew how to move forward in your life, why the heck would you need her?
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Old Jun 26, 2011, 07:35 PM
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I have been with her over 8yrs now and have never cancelled yet...

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I cancel at least 1 session a month.
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Old Jun 26, 2011, 07:36 PM
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Sannah, Thank you. Your replies always get me thinking. I was worried people would think my response was whiny or manipulative. As far as how did her response address my needs? I don't think she did. Only let me know that is was sickening to hear and not true and that it is all victim sh--. I really don't understand why she responded to me like that and in that tone. She is usally a lot nicer to me and I STILL haven't heard from her. That probably doesn't sound like much but this is coming from a T that texts me almost everyday...
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Old Jun 26, 2011, 07:37 PM
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I cancel at least 1 session a month.
LMAO. So do you give blood or do I have to go to the other forum to check??
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Old Jun 26, 2011, 07:39 PM
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I did prior to my kids, but I've been a cocktail of pain and brain meds and now can't until I at least come off the pain ones. Could be awhile...
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Old Jun 26, 2011, 07:41 PM
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Maybe she isn't replying now because you stood up for yourself and it made her look dumb????????

In your other thread you write that you have been with her for 8 years and that you had 3 terrible pdocs before her. How about keeping her as your pdoc and getting a new therapist?
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Old Jun 26, 2011, 07:41 PM
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The other thing I feel guilty about is when she says that I should go out and help others more. Inside I am thinking "WTF about me!?!?!? T, Who is helping ME ??" is that wrong or common in this instance??
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Old Jun 26, 2011, 07:42 PM
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I was wondering the same thing. If someone needs therapy the focus should be on them. When is treatment for yourself focusing on others? This is how we all got this way, by caregivers not focusing on US!
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Old Jun 26, 2011, 07:52 PM
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But sometimes when we focus on ourselves too much it becomes counterproductive, especially after being in therapy for several years. My T didn't push me to help others early in our relationship while I needed to focus on myself and while my kids were still young but now, 10 years later, he is pushing me to be somewhat less focused on my own issues and more focused on ways that I can be "needed" by others. It is definitely possible to become too self-absorbed after several years of therapy and that can make it difficult to form healthy relationships because we become accustomed to the one-sided therapeutic relationship where the attention is primarily on us.
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Doc: "You know, for the past few weeks you've seemed very disconnected from your emotions when you're here."
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Me: "Doc, why are you banging your head against the arm of your chair?"
Doc: "Because I'm not close enough to a wall."

It's official. I can even make therapists crazy.
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Old Jun 26, 2011, 08:05 PM
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Maybe she isn't replying now because you stood up for yourself and it made her look dumb????????
I wonder if that is what she is thinking or feeling...
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Old Jun 26, 2011, 08:05 PM
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I did prior to my kids, but I've been a cocktail of pain and brain meds and now can't until I at least come off the pain ones. Could be awhile...
Good for you Flooded. I wasn't able to for the same reasons before. I probably could now though...
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Old Jun 26, 2011, 08:06 PM
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I was wondering the same thing. If someone needs therapy the focus should be on them. When is treatment for yourself focusing on others? This is how we all got this way, by caregivers not focusing on US!
Thank you! That's what I thought!
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Old Jun 26, 2011, 08:06 PM
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But sometimes when we focus on ourselves too much it becomes counterproductive, especially after being in therapy for several years. My T didn't push me to help others early in our relationship while I needed to focus on myself and while my kids were still young but now, 10 years later, he is pushing me to be somewhat less focused on my own issues and more focused on ways that I can be "needed" by others. It is definitely possible to become too self-absorbed after several years of therapy and that can make it difficult to form healthy relationships because we become accustomed to the one-sided therapeutic relationship where the attention is primarily on us.
I hadn't looked at it that way before. I wonder if that is the case here...
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Old Jun 26, 2011, 08:13 PM
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I think that if a person has made progress on their issues then it is time to focus on others. If a person is hearing voices, SI ing and is suicidal I think that it is time to focus on them.
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Old Jun 26, 2011, 08:21 PM
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I think that if a person has made progress on their issues then it is time to focus on others. If a person is hearing voices, SI ing and is suicidal I think that it is time to focus on them.
I agree Sannah. I don't think the above paints a pretty picture for a volunteer. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.
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Old Jun 26, 2011, 08:22 PM
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Hard to say. Sometimes it's a vicious circle. If you have nothing but your own problems to focus on, sometimes your own problems become bigger because you lose sight of what other people are dealing with, and you can become disconnected from others and isolated, and that makes it more likely you will resort to SI or feeling suicidal.
I'm not saying that's definitely what's happening. Just throwing another possibility out there to look at.
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Doc: "You know, for the past few weeks you've seemed very disconnected from your emotions when you're here."
Me: "I'm not disconnected from my emotions. I just don't feel anything when I'm here."
(Pause)
Me: "Doc, why are you banging your head against the arm of your chair?"
Doc: "Because I'm not close enough to a wall."

It's official. I can even make therapists crazy.
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Old Jun 26, 2011, 08:26 PM
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PreacherHeckler you have a valid point. I do think that time is also a factor. If you are working part time or full time and really don't have much time for yourself I think then the time needs to be spent on taking care of yourself versus others to prevent one (or me) from self destructing. Just my 2 cents.
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Old Jun 26, 2011, 08:31 PM
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Sure Cats, time is definitely a factor. If you're working full time or attending school or you have young kids, there may not be enough time left in the day to even begin to think about helping others when you need help yourself. I don't know what your situation is so that's why I said it's hard to say.
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Conversation with my therapist:

Doc: "You know, for the past few weeks you've seemed very disconnected from your emotions when you're here."
Me: "I'm not disconnected from my emotions. I just don't feel anything when I'm here."
(Pause)
Me: "Doc, why are you banging your head against the arm of your chair?"
Doc: "Because I'm not close enough to a wall."

It's official. I can even make therapists crazy.
Thanks for this!
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Old Jun 26, 2011, 08:34 PM
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Thanks. I am working pretty close to full time and trying to finish me college degree as well. Sometimes I wonder how thin my T would like me to stretch myself...
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Old Jun 26, 2011, 08:38 PM
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Sounds like you're pretty busy so it's not like you have too much idle time on your hands. Have you asked her why she thinks you should volunteer since you're already busy with work and school?
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Conversation with my therapist:

Doc: "You know, for the past few weeks you've seemed very disconnected from your emotions when you're here."
Me: "I'm not disconnected from my emotions. I just don't feel anything when I'm here."
(Pause)
Me: "Doc, why are you banging your head against the arm of your chair?"
Doc: "Because I'm not close enough to a wall."

It's official. I can even make therapists crazy.
Thanks for this!
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Old Jun 26, 2011, 08:40 PM
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Apparently I need to get out of my head and out of the "Victim sh--". That's what she said anyway...
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Old Jun 26, 2011, 08:43 PM
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Does your job keep you isolated in any way? How about school -- is your major something that keeps you focused on trauma related issues?
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Conversation with my therapist:

Doc: "You know, for the past few weeks you've seemed very disconnected from your emotions when you're here."
Me: "I'm not disconnected from my emotions. I just don't feel anything when I'm here."
(Pause)
Me: "Doc, why are you banging your head against the arm of your chair?"
Doc: "Because I'm not close enough to a wall."

It's official. I can even make therapists crazy.
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