Home Menu

Menu


Reply
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old May 30, 2013, 10:13 AM
skysblue's Avatar
skysblue skysblue is offline
Magnate
 
Member Since: Apr 2011
Location: Northern California
Posts: 2,885
... that keep being peeled back, such is the experience of the work that is done in therapy.

Just a week ago, I suggested to T the idea of scaling back on quantity of sessions per month and actually canceling session for this week. Yet, 'stuff' appeared and I'm actually seeing T 2x this week.

So, I think what I need to realize is that in the path to self-discovery, possibly there is no final destination. idk

I do know, though, that uncovering and identifying old wounds, wounds which are the source of some of my dysfunctional behaviors and painful emotions, I begin to feel more and more free, more and more authentic.

For me, whatever happens in the therapy room, whatever kind of 'magic' is performed by the therapist, whatever unseen, unrecognized internal movement occurs - all of that, I believe, would not be likely to be possible without the help of my therapist.

The mind is still a huge unknown by our scientific explorers. Sure, there are a lot of theories and sure, there is a lot that can be proven about what makes us 'tick' but the mystery of the subconscious and unconscious remains mostly a mystery. I suppose we can thank Freud for initiating the investigation into this realm of our lives and that there exist now bonafide research into this arena.

But, psychotherapy can be very frustrating, confusing, and painful. So often we have no idea what the hey is going on and we grasp for answers. But those answers are not easily attained. They belong in some kind of ethereal realm. At least that what it seems like to me.

Still,I believe, if we stick with it and 'trust the process', as my T has been so fond of repeating, we will attain what we seek. How? I don't know. I have no idea what the 'process' is. It is so dang mysterious.

All I know is that, for me, it works and continues to work. I wish I could explain it. I wish I could say "this is the path and here are the signposts and turn left here and next turn right".

I can't do that. It's an individual journey. But, for all of you who feel skeptical or discouraged, hang on. Because of my continual amazement of what is uncovered in my deeper psyche during my own therapy process, I will always be grateful to my T.

Of course, if you don't have the right T or they don't have the tools to help you, then you must seek someone more helpful. But given the right guidance, magic happens - yes it does. It has happened for me and my persona continues to unfold.
Hugs from:
1stepatatime, Anonymous33425, Anonymous58205, herethennow, precious things, rainbow8, sittingatwatersedge
Thanks for this!
1stepatatime, Freewilled, herethennow, Lamplighter, moonlitsky, murray, Perna, precious things, rainbow8, refika, sittingatwatersedge, Tarra, ultramar, unaluna

advertisement
  #2  
Old May 30, 2013, 10:19 AM
HealingTimes's Avatar
HealingTimes HealingTimes is offline
Magnate
 
Member Since: Mar 2013
Location: England
Posts: 2,087
Skysblue- what a really lovely post
I feel pretty much the same. I went into T thinking that it would be like a series of linear steps that i would have to take, like a list of things i'd have to discuss.

But i have found that therapy is not a linear process, and no matter how hard i try ( VERY hard, let me tell you! ), i cannot control it.
I cannot control my T either, and neither should i try to control her.

I am finding myself talking about things that i never even knew were an issue, but i know them to be definite issues now.

Through all the hostility i show to my T, through the resisting her, through all the tears i shed (at home in private), through all the heartache and confusion my emotions and memories bring up to the surface...i know it'll be worth it.
__________________
“Change, like healing, takes time.”. Veronica Roth, Allegiant
Thanks for this!
moonlitsky, skysblue
  #3  
Old May 30, 2013, 10:29 AM
Perna's Avatar
Perna Perna is offline
Pandita-in-training
 
Member Since: Sep 2006
Location: Maryland
Posts: 27,289
Quote:
Originally Posted by skysblue View Post
I have no idea what the 'process' is.
Therapy does seem to work mysteriously and well, as you say.

I had trouble with the onion metaphor and applying it to myself, one ends up with "nothing" if all the layers are removed? and I preferred to think of myself as a multi-walled city like Jerusalem

Like layers of an onion..

But then, I was a medieval history major once upon a time. . . I still remember how in 6th grade I wanted to grow up to be a Squire; not a Page or Knight, but the in-between state of Squire.

Eventually I decided to think of the "process" as like the process of getting an education; you can see what happens when you go from 1st grade to 12th but can you describe well what happens, day-to-day? It was a little easier for me to sort of understand learning addition and then multiplication, they follow on one another well enough as do subtraction and division. The first day of 3rd grade when we were supposed to learn that multiplication and division stuff, we were given a test that included them (??? why do educators like to mess with children that way?) and I had a clue about multiplication but not division but, happily, the girl next to me knew about division but not multiplication and we quickly showed each other what we "understood". A highlight of my life.
__________________
"Never give a sword to a man who can't dance." ~Confucius
Hugs from:
BonnieJean
Thanks for this!
skysblue
  #4  
Old May 30, 2013, 10:32 AM
Anne2.0 Anne2.0 is offline
Grand Magnate
 
Member Since: Aug 2012
Location: Anonymous
Posts: 3,132
I think that often, being open to a change can bring the kind of change we didn't expect. You were open to the possibility of reducing your sessions, and it may be that making this kind of progress led you to where you are now.

I thought I was done with therapy many years ago. I mean, I'd done 5 years of intense, trauma focused therapy, made changes in my life, was settled into a meaningful career and a mostly satisfying marriage and motherhood. Life was mostly good, but my past was dogging me again. That was a kind of big layer-- and it took me awhile, a better part of a year, before I was willing to consider going back to therapy. Best willingness ever.

I'm happy for you, that you have two sessions this week
Thanks for this!
skysblue
  #5  
Old May 30, 2013, 11:33 AM
refika's Avatar
refika refika is offline
Member
 
Member Since: Jan 2013
Location: USA
Posts: 251
Skysblue, thank you SO much for sharing your insight and thoughts. You perfectly summed up what I'm feeling and experiencing now.

Yes, therapy is a magical process, and what that process is, I, like you, have no idea.

I'm just now starting to trust the process, to give up control, not go into sessions with a preplanned agenda, and as a result I've had some of the most productive sessions.

It's hard and painful trusting the process. My T keeps telling me "you're going to feel worse before you feel better" and I definitely HAVE felt worse. But, knowing I have T's support and a scheduled session helps me get through the tough days.
Thanks for this!
skysblue
  #6  
Old May 30, 2013, 04:09 PM
Anonymous58205
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Thank you for your post Skysblue
It was beautiful. Yes indeed, what a enigmatic process therapy is. There is no explanation for how or why it works because it is different for everyone as you said but your t is absolutely correct in saying that we have to trust the process. Your analogy of the onion is very apt to because the more I peel of the layers the more I cry.
For me, therapy has worked because my t treats me with positive regard and is the first person to listen and trust me. SHe is the first person to encourage me and make me stop and think, hey, I am worth talking to and maybe I am interesting enough to talk to. Thank you for the post.
Thanks for this!
skysblue
  #7  
Old May 31, 2013, 11:54 AM
skysblue's Avatar
skysblue skysblue is offline
Magnate
 
Member Since: Apr 2011
Location: Northern California
Posts: 2,885
Quote:
Originally Posted by HealingTimes View Post

But i have found that therapy is not a linear process, and no matter how hard i try ( VERY hard, let me tell you! ), i cannot control it.
My T is also fond of telling me that the 'process' is not linear. With my own fondness of clarity and my love of making lists, charts, and outlines, the inability sometimes to recognize the progress made because it's not easily analyzed or contained in neat boxes, can be frustrating. I have really really needed to learn to 'see' with different eyes.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Perna View Post
I had trouble with the onion metaphor and applying it to myself, one ends up with "nothing" if all the layers are removed? and I preferred to think of myself as a multi-walled city like Jerusalem
Ah yes, metaphors - such inexact descriptions of our invisible experiences. I do love your metaphor of the walled city. Nice.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Anne2.0 View Post
I think that often, being open to a change can bring the kind of change we didn't expect. You were open to the possibility of reducing your sessions, and it may be that making this kind of progress led you to where you are now.
Yes, I think flexibility is essential to the complete arena of human life. Being open to all kinds of changes is necessary to find some kind of peace of mind. Clinging to anything, anything at all will be a recipe for disaster. One of the things we can be assured of is that change is always happening.

Quote:
Originally Posted by refika View Post
It's hard and painful trusting the process. My T keeps telling me "you're going to feel worse before you feel better" and I definitely HAVE felt worse. But, knowing I have T's support and a scheduled session helps me get through the tough days.
I know!! Feeling worse instead of better seems to be the 'absolute' in therapy. Of course, I don't know that for sure. I can only speak for myself but I wish I had have known that before I began therapy and maybe it wouldn't have been so hard for me at the time - if I had have known that the emergence of volatile emotions was 'par for the course'.

Quote:
Originally Posted by monalisasmile View Post
It was beautiful. Yes indeed, what a enigmatic process therapy is. There is no explanation for how or why it works because it is different for everyone as you said but your t is absolutely correct in saying that we have to trust the process. Your analogy of the onion is very apt to because the more I peel of the layers the more I cry.
Ha , I hadn't thought of the crying aspect of the onion metaphor. Yes!!

Not only trusting the process is necessary but so is patience, 'infinite' patience, it seems.
  #8  
Old Jun 02, 2013, 07:38 PM
sittingatwatersedge sittingatwatersedge is offline
- - -
 
Member Since: Nov 2008
Posts: 15,166
Quote:
Originally Posted by monalisasmile View Post
the more I peel of the layers the more I cry.

mls
  #9  
Old Jun 02, 2013, 08:37 PM
Anonymous333334
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Quote:
Originally Posted by Perna View Post
Eventually I decided to think of the "process" as like the process of getting an education; you can see what happens when you go from 1st grade to 12th but can you describe well what happens, day-to-day?
Ever since I decided NOT to get a Master's degree in my field, I kind of have this idea that paying for therapy IS my form of higher education. I'm getting a Master's Degree in myself. Ha! In that regard, I spent a lot of years skating by under the radar, doing whatever it took to succeed at the barest minimum and nothing more. Now I am upping the ante a bit and man, I have a LOT of learning to do. It's a little cheaper, I guess, but I suspect it's going to take WAY longer than the average 2 years! And thank dog I don't have to write any papers...
Hugs from:
sittingatwatersedge
Thanks for this!
sittingatwatersedge
Reply
Views: 1397

attentionThis is an old thread. You probably should not post your reply to it, as the original poster is unlikely to see it.




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:06 AM.
Powered by vBulletin® — Copyright © 2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.




 

My Support Forums

My Support Forums is the online community that was originally begun as the Psych Central Forums in 2001. It now runs as an independent self-help support group community for mental health, personality, and psychological issues and is overseen by a group of dedicated, caring volunteers from around the world.

 

Helplines and Lifelines

The material on this site is for informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis or treatment provided by a qualified health care provider.

Always consult your doctor or mental health professional before trying anything you read here.