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Old May 27, 2007, 07:31 PM
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My t has become concerned that I might be thinking of hurting myself, and has questioned me about it. I don't think I could ever sit in the same room with t and admit something like that. Have any of you been asked that by your t?

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Old May 27, 2007, 07:42 PM
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You need to be honest with your T so make sure you get the care you need.

I have shared that I do not wish to be here.... I think that sometimes that is normal.

I read in a magazine right before I started therapy ... Never lie to your shrink. I would share that with you. Not sharing would be lying. I know it can be difficult but ... I feel you need to tell so that you can talk it through. If you talk it though, the need to hurt yourself may deminish.
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Old May 27, 2007, 08:05 PM
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I'm a self-injurer and also have suicidal thoughts sometimes and, yes, we talk about it. He's very, very good and kind about it and listens and lets me talk. It helps me a lot just knowing I have his support as I'm attempting to heal. He knows I don't want to have the thoughts or do the behaviors, but they're there anyway.
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Old May 27, 2007, 08:07 PM
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yeah, i used to tell my t when i was thinking of hurting myself. she would try and help me figure out why i was thinking of hurting myself. try and figure out what was behind it. sometimes there would be other things that i could do to reduce that. sometimes just talking about it to someone who cares would be enough for me not to think about it so much.
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Old May 27, 2007, 08:12 PM
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My T asks me that all the time. I tell him yes. I'm paying for his help. If I don't tell him what is going on in my head he can't help me. He is the only one keeping me from cutting seriously right now and I told him that. I do some little cuts to please myself, but not what I really want to do.

Sometime I go around the truth by not telling him everything or avoiding issues. The next session I'm right there telling what I should have told him the session before. He's one person I make mysefl be honest to.
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Old May 27, 2007, 08:29 PM
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I would and have told T about fears of self harm.

T is there to help you so go ahead....you will ultimately feel better becaue of it!

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Old May 27, 2007, 10:05 PM
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Hi TryingToCope, I have had numerous conversations about hurting myself—suicidal thoughts and self harm thoughts. Mt T and I have open discussions about it. She and my pdoc both try to help me with those type of thoughts. If I am not honest, they can’t help me. Please, if you are having thoughts of hurting yourself, talk to your T—she/he might be able to help.
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Old May 27, 2007, 10:11 PM
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You may want to ask your t, ''how would you respond if I talked about hurting myself?''

I know that if a t would tell me, ''if you're going to hurt yourself I need to know, I may need to send you to the hospital,'' I would NOT want to ever talk to this t again.

A t who allows me to talk about my distress and asks, ''what is going on for you emotionally that is so hard for you to deal with?'' is a t I want to continue to talk to. And yes in talking I may find relief, and at times I may need an additional session that week to help me through some tough times.
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Old May 28, 2007, 06:01 AM
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....this question makes me wonder about myself.

i have a past where telling people such things has gotten me put in a psychiatric hospital.

...and at this moment and have been for a while, thinking of hurting self, and i have a pretty much fool-proof way of succesfully bringing about my self-demise. nothing is 100%, but this method seems pretty certain and painless (no I won't share the method...not saying anyone would want to know...but i don't want to have others deaths on my conscious.)

i fear telling my therapist these details, fear that it may be seen as just a ploy for attention. and i don't want to be thrown into a hospital again...

...plus i wouldn't do anything immediately anyway. i'd have to no longer be a client of hers for at least a year...so that I can put distance from her....from a legal standpoint...and because if I go under "her watch"....it would make her feel real bad and could damage her. so there is not "plan" for anything immediate...

if i should tell her anything, why do you think so?
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Old May 28, 2007, 06:04 AM
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i didnt... my friend literally DRAGGED me along to my GP and explained to him. and then the bastard told every 1. dont letthat put u off ok? coz hs just an idiot
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Yes I talk to about any sucidel ideologys I am having and she manages to talk me out of them. She has never appeared disturbed or threatened by my self harming gestures in the past, and I think I was a little disappointed at times looking back. I needed to see how much I could affect her. Now I have internalied some of her calmness about it and often end up seeing my own intentions much quicker now, and know most times they are a cry for help more than a wish for death or harm...at times its almost scary seeing my last coping techinque vanishing,.
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Old May 28, 2007, 10:02 AM
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Yes.... I do now...both my pdoc and T.... cause telling them sometimes prevents me from the follow thru.... but I also trust their judgement that they won't immediately throw me in the hospital... my current T, upped my sessions to two a week... that has helped a great deal and I feel very fortunate....
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Old May 28, 2007, 10:42 AM
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Yes, I talk of wanting to hurt myself -she does really well with explaining to me that I really have enough going on with out adding other physical pain on top of it and so I ususally don't do it. I've gone in talking about wanting to k_ll myself as well and she just makes me look at it logically instead of emotionally.
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<font color="#000088"> I've read a lot of responces that are very true to your question.If you can't tell your T or PDoc the truth,how do you expect them to know how to help you? They won't know what's really wrong,or what's going through your mind.They need to know those things in order to help.If you answer yes to having thoughts of suicide or harming yourself,they will ask if you have a plan.If you tell them you've already planned it,then ofcourse thier gonna try to protect you.But if you tell them,you are doing whatever you can to fight it,they will be there for you ,to help you fight it,and offer advice,ways to cope.But they're not going to lock you up,unless you say you have a plan,and you're gonna do it! My T and PDoc ask me the same thing every time they see me,and I say yes!But that I'm doing everything I can to keep myself from doing anything.I see my T every week,and have yet to be locked up over being honest,they actually respect me more for it! Would anyone admit to t if they thinking of hurting themself </font>
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Old May 28, 2007, 03:44 PM
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Thank you all for responding. This is something I have a very hard time even thinking of talking to t about. After reading the responses I can see were I should try to talk to t about this.
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Old May 28, 2007, 04:23 PM
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Yes and I have. I had never told another living soul about the plan that I had to end my life but I told her. We talked about it and I felt safer. She mentioned that no method is 100% for sure and what would happen if I was not sucessful in ending my life? We talked about the hurt and shame of the aftermath if I survived and if I did not. It relaly put things into perspective
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Old May 28, 2007, 06:46 PM
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Normally when I tell my T about my SI, it is after the fact. It's an impulsive behavior, so I'm never really planning it out beforehand. But I do tell him afterwards so that we can talk about it. Or at least acknowledge it. I have never been actively suicidal, but I have had ideation.... I told both my pdoc and my T about this.... when they asked. I was very aware that I was thinking about it from a concept point of view-- I KNEW that I wasn't going to do actually do anything.

I really hope that seeing all the responses helped you to realize that it's ok to tell your T/pdoc about this. Feels awful, I know... BUT IT IS VERY IMPORTANT. I hope you are ok.
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Old May 28, 2007, 11:00 PM
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I don't SI anymore, so this hasn't come up for me. But if I was still doing that, I don't think I would confide, because of the warning on my T's informed consent form, which I signed at the outset of our therapy. It says that he is required by law to contact the proper authorities to make arrangements for my (or others') safety under conditions of suspected child abuse, when the client threatens the potential to harm self or others, or threatens suicide. To me, that said loud and clear that he does not want to hear about those topics. Since there is some potential abuse going on in the home, it took me ages to discuss this with him because I was so put off by the informed consent form. Yes, I know he is required by law to put that stuff on his form, but as a client, it is offputting to me and does not encourage sharing of these difficult topics. JMO. And he acted kind of pissed off when I finally did confide this stuff. And I feel like hey, this is a hard topic, and the informed consent discourages me from being forthright.
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Old May 29, 2007, 05:05 PM
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I recently confessed to t that self harm is on my mind lots,and have acted on it many many times.He said hes gonna help me work on it......it felt good to ask for help.....I plan to tell him about the other thoughts too.Just cause your thinking it doesnt mean your gonna do it.
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Old May 29, 2007, 05:14 PM
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Not right when I am thinking it but I don't hide it from her either. I was given a paper at intake saying the agency protocal for active abuse, or self injury or suicidal behavours they refer clients to the appropiate places - police for abuse, ER for the others for intake to mental health units. So I don't tell her right when I am thinking it but do tell her either before the feeling gets too strong or after the feeling passes so that I don't end up in the MHU.
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Old May 30, 2007, 02:09 PM
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My T doesn't even ask me if I'm thinking about hurting myself. She just tells me that I am thinking about it. I might not be right that moment, but it never completely goes away for me, even if I think it has. If I have specific plans, I'm not likely to volunteer anything about it until there is more of me that doesn't want to go through with it than that does want to. I have to have enough of me that is willing to be stopped first.

I self-injure too, and T knows all about that. Usually what I do is pretty minor. Last time I had emailed her and mentioned that I went out and trimmed the roses without gloves, for example (as that was better than the other thing I really wanted to do). Then in the session I was talking about messed up thoughts, and describing them, and one that I identified was feeling like I deserve to be hurt. She asked for a specific example, and I couldn't think of one and said maybe I haven't had that thought in a while. Then she mentioned trimming the roses, just a few days previous. Oh, yeah. Would anyone admit to t if they thinking of hurting themself I guess that was it, wasn't it?

There doesn't seem to be any point in denying anything. She knows. I think if I didn't admit it, that would be a lot worse.
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Old May 30, 2007, 02:22 PM
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She is good isn't she.... and she knows you quite well.
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Yep - I've told my T.
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