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Old Sep 16, 2017, 09:29 PM
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I agree, start fresh and let him get the information from you. It will be part of the building trust part of the relationship.
That's a good point, about the building trust. I also don't want him approaching me with preconceived notions about what I'm like or what I'm feeling. T and MC probably have their own theories about why I react the way I do to things, but new guy is almost a sort of second (well, third, I suppose) opinion. So starting fresh makes sense.
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Old Sep 16, 2017, 09:32 PM
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I do not sign the forms that ts want you to sign so they can talk to one another. I prefer to give them the info that I want them to have, when I want them to have it.

It's partly a trust thing-I fear them making decisions without my input. It's partly because if I thought one of them was totally on the ball, why would I be seeing the second? And partly because it seems like giving them power; like I would let my GP talk to a specialist because GP knows some stuff I don't and might be able to help specialist rule out some things. But I don't think ts generally have that knowledge-and if they do, they should tell me and I will tell other ts.
Yeah, I understand this. MC was recently saying how he and T talk about stuff with me sometimes...and I had asked T recently to tell me when they talked and what about. And she seemed to agree to do that. But she didn't. So I have this feeling almost of "Mom" and "Dad" talking about me behind my back. I told T what MC had said when I saw her this week, and she said sometimes MC will share that I'd e-mailed or a concern he had about me. But, like, I still wish T had told me about those...might have to ask MC about that Monday.
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Old Sep 16, 2017, 09:46 PM
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Apple Pie Oreos are a thing. Just sayin'.
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Old Sep 16, 2017, 10:15 PM
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But should they be?
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Old Sep 16, 2017, 10:16 PM
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Is it like mine and belongs to your mother? and the tormentors? as well as my right to be alive.
No. It was like, 1. My mother would never use my name, she just always called me "the baby". I ASKED her to use my name, and she refused. So i think i rarely heard it.

And 2, i asked how i got my name, and it was like, they didnt know what else to call me. Its a pretty common name in italian, but the americanized version that they gave me is just kinda plain, and similar in spelling to my brothers name (same vowels, different consonants, same pattern!). My brother got our grandfathers name, so that always seemed special.

3. Right to be alive is a whole other thing. That was my mothers issue with me too. She had guilt from her mother, who was a surviving twin.
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Old Sep 16, 2017, 10:23 PM
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But should they be?
Yes.



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Old Sep 16, 2017, 10:24 PM
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Yes, but I also have several names that I go by. The one I use the most is the one I am least connected to, so it almost always doesn't feel right. It's more like the label on a jar of me's.
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Yep. I also have the issue with my mirror reflection or photos sometimes. In my case it's a manifestation of dissociation--depersonalization.
Iwas in a department store walking towards one of those wall to ceiling mirrors and I couldnt understand why the person walking towards me wouldnt get out of the way until i realised it was amirror at the last moment.
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Old Sep 16, 2017, 10:25 PM
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...One thing he said was that it could be a goodness of fit issue. Like maybe T just isn't the right fit for me. (Which, incidentally, T has also said that my mom and I are a bad fit.)

But my natural reaction is to blame myself...to think I *should*...
See, you could have stopped right there, decide no more "shoulding" on yourself. Instead of calling it some kind of transference, cuz that just muddles it and loses track of an action you could take. You dont have to figure ANYTHING out to the end in order to decide to stop shoulding.
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Old Sep 16, 2017, 10:27 PM
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Now the flipping multiquote works.
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Old Sep 16, 2017, 10:29 PM
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But should they be?
Sounds like fake apple pie using ritz crackers. Use enough sugar fat and salt and people will eat well nevermind.

I might be becoming orthorexic. Except for fake no calorie chocolate. God obviously wants me to have that.
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Old Sep 16, 2017, 10:31 PM
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Now the flipping multiquote works.
I cant do it on my fancy new phone. I used to give lessons on how to when i had my old fake blackberry treo. But i was so much younger then, im older than that now.

Eta - my gf and i went to see Home Again, reese witherspoon making out with a younger guy. My gf also sees my same chiro. So you can imagine a good time was had by all. Cute movie anyway.
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Old Sep 16, 2017, 10:40 PM
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Sounds like fake apple pie using ritz crackers. Use enough sugar fat and salt and people will eat well nevermind.

I might be becoming orthorexic. Except for fake no calorie chocolate. God obviously wants me to have that.
I am reminded of the time I asked SD if she would eat you if necessary to survive (I forget the exact context, possibly you guys were roommates in a nursing home?) and she said no, you would taste terrible because of the no-fat no-sugar no-salt diet. Keeps you safe!

The oreo cookies are supposedly graham. It's the apple creme I can't imagine.
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Old Sep 16, 2017, 10:46 PM
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SD I am with you, oreos and other cookie/candy things really should just be the original. apple pie oreos?! GROSS.
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Old Sep 16, 2017, 10:48 PM
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But should they be?
Gives me an opportunity to mention of how the fall of the Roman Empire was marked by exactly such bizarre foodstuffs...
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Old Sep 16, 2017, 10:54 PM
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Gives me an opportunity to mention of how the fall of the Roman Empire was marked by exactly such bizarre foodstuffs...
No wonder they were pukin all the time! lol ah ha ha boy that was a good 'un!

Eta oh you set me up dint you? You know i cant resist a good straight line. Well that was the best!!!
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Old Sep 16, 2017, 10:57 PM
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No wonder they were pukin all the time! lol ah ha ha boy that was a good 'un!

Eta oh you set me up dint you? You know i cant resist a good straight line. Well that was the best!!!
You know vomitoria weren't actually for vomiting, right...?

Eta: that's why you keep me around, right? Excellent source of straight lines. Say good night, Gracie!

*puffs quietly on a cigar*
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Old Sep 16, 2017, 10:57 PM
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Oh you two...
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Old Sep 17, 2017, 06:54 AM
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Delirium killed the couch!
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Old Sep 17, 2017, 06:57 AM
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Couch killers.
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Old Sep 17, 2017, 07:31 AM
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Wow guess so....

Hi couch... trying to wake it back up. What's going on in your world? Anyone around?
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Old Sep 17, 2017, 07:33 AM
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See, you could have stopped right there, decide no more "shoulding" on yourself. Instead of calling it some kind of transference, cuz that just muddles it and loses track of an action you could take. You dont have to figure ANYTHING out to the end in order to decide to stop shoulding.
MC has commented on the "should" thing numerous times. Like sometimes he'll stop me in the middle of a sentence if I'm like, "But I feel like I should be doing..." or "I shouldn't be feeling..." It's gotten so that, at least in there, I can often catch myself in the middle of saying it.

I'm pretty sure it comes from my mom, because she has this image of how people "should" be, so I was expected to live up to that. And I fear falling short of people's expectations. Or of being screwed up. Like "No normal person would feel x..." But figuring out where it comes from and actually being able to change those thoughts are two different things. I guess it comes back to the whole modifying the schemas thing that MC talks about, how that can happen in therapy and through...wait for it...transference.
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Old Sep 17, 2017, 07:48 AM
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You know vomitoria weren't actually for vomiting, right...?

Eta: that's why you keep me around, right? Excellent source of straight lines. Say good night, Gracie!

*puffs quietly on a cigar*
"A vomitorium is a passage situated below or behind a tier of seats in an amphitheatre or a stadium, through which big crowds can exit rapidly at the end of a performance. They can also be pathways for actors to enter and leave stage"

Oh the things one can learn just by hanging out here on the couch. I never knew this!
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Old Sep 17, 2017, 07:49 AM
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Getting ready for work on an early Sunday morning is wrong on so many levels.
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Old Sep 17, 2017, 07:50 AM
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I was teasing earlier. Now I feel bad.
Waiting on H to get ready so that we can go into NYC. Today is the day I eat a street hot dog! Other than that, no clue what we're going to do.
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Old Sep 17, 2017, 07:53 AM
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I've never been to NYC, I hope you have an enjoyable time!
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