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Old Jan 04, 2018, 10:47 AM
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I emailed late last night at 10 saying I would turn up.

"I am sorry. I can see this is difficult for you and I am quite hard on you because I believe you can do this.It's okay to be confused and to not get anything"

So that's my rupture over.
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Old Jan 04, 2018, 11:49 AM
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Any specific reason why she had you cut back?
She felt that we needed some change and after over a decade I did need to work a bit more on making progress on my own.
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Old Jan 04, 2018, 11:53 AM
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Omg, I loathe my ob/gyn's office.

I had surgery 3 weeks ago. I couldn't have my two-week followup appt because that was the week of Christmas and my (truly horrible) dr. had the week off.
Ok, I dealt with that.

It snowed an inch last night and now the office is closed all day today...what the ever-loving FORK...so I have to miss my appt.
But I still got the text reminder a minute ago.
Get your **** together people.
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Old Jan 04, 2018, 11:58 AM
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OMG--yes! That is a big part of it, followed by her attempts to reframe an email a longtime friend sent me (someone I haven't seen in years) who'd said--in response to my saying I was too embarrassed to see her--that there were no worries if we never see each other again. My therapist totally took my friend's side and tried to read interpretations into what had been emailed that were just not there. And it was all building off the embarrassment of the guy in the window, who she was also trying to reframe in a positive, but bogus, way. It was just awful. I feel pretty great right now, though, not having to deal with going back.

Thanks for the update on BLONDIE vs the SNOW. I'm telling you, those hearty snow people can be totally irritating with their weather competence.
I don’t mean to be an arse but you’d give up on a therapist (who I’ll admit I seriously crush out on, sight unseen — pure love and all that) who is unfortunately, currently (for reasons unknown) addled enough (maybe it’s the snow or the mere prospect of snow?) to try textbook-y therapist-y stuff like reframing and all that crap?

If I were you, I’d go back (as I have done with Blondie) and describe (as Blondie put it yesterday, scathingly) what I think of such therapist-y tactics. But, perhaps, not actually quit?

Don’t mind me though — last night, Blondie vehemently denied that she’d meant “pathetic” in relation to my response but had instead meant it for the moron’s (who’d pissed me off) behavior. And, that she could totally see why I was reacting the way I was reacting.

I kinda realized then that I tend to listen for what I’m used to listening to and not what was actually said / meant?
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Old Jan 04, 2018, 12:07 PM
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I’m kind of hoping Piaf cancels.

I’m so not interested in adding my scalp to another therapist’s trophy case.
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Old Jan 04, 2018, 12:11 PM
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Omg, I loathe my ob/gyn's office.

I had surgery 3 weeks ago. I couldn't have my two-week followup appt because that was the week of Christmas and my (truly horrible) dr. had the week off.
Ok, I dealt with that.

It snowed an inch last night and now the office is closed all day today...what the ever-loving FORK...so I have to miss my appt.
But I still got the text reminder a minute ago.
Get your **** together people.
Wow, a doctor's office is closed for an inch of snow? I kinda get schools closing, because there are liability issues/safety concerns, but a doctor's offfice?
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Old Jan 04, 2018, 12:17 PM
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I emailed late last night at 10 saying I would turn up.

"I am sorry. I can see this is difficult for you and I am quite hard on you because I believe you can do this.It's okay to be confused and to not get anything"

So that's my rupture over.

Did he write that back to you? If so, it does my heart good to see him come through big for you.
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Old Jan 04, 2018, 12:24 PM
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...I kinda realized then that I tend to listen for what I’m used to listening to and not what was actually said / meant?
Ive had that happen. Its only with current t that ive had the wherewithall to say WTF?! what did you just say? And now i wonder if THE WORK is IN finally being able to recognize and defend that encroachment on our boundaries.

Cuz - is our t really the person who wants to play "im superior to you" with us? No, they are just our intramural competitor. They are just practice.
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Old Jan 04, 2018, 12:25 PM
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Did he write that back to you? If so, it does my heart good to see him come through big for you.
(((LEMON))) And double to you for sticking with the hard work.
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Old Jan 04, 2018, 12:45 PM
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I have a strong urge to go to session today and tell him I can't do this anymore. Therapy is too hard. I don't know if that would be the best thing for me though.
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Old Jan 04, 2018, 12:49 PM
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Definitely rewarding myself with Chipotle. Oww oww oww.
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Old Jan 04, 2018, 12:52 PM
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Old Jan 04, 2018, 01:25 PM
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Old Jan 04, 2018, 01:43 PM
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Wow, a doctor's office is closed for an inch of snow? I kinda get schools closing, because there are liability issues/safety concerns, but a doctor's offfice?
It's because they suck.

Someone called to reschedule and said, "She can see you on the 18th."

UM, NO.

I mean, wtf. My horrible dr. is supposed to be calling me back. That should be a fun conversation.
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Old Jan 04, 2018, 01:45 PM
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I'm working so slow today, yeesh. Yesterday I researched and responded to 64 emails; I'm currently only at 24 with half the day left. I need to pick up the pace, but my fingers don't wanna type...
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Old Jan 04, 2018, 02:51 PM
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Did he write that back to you? If so, it does my heart good to see him come through big for you.
It was in person and I also did give him a hard time, but by the end after a whole lot more tears he also said he finally understood why I found it so hard to believe that he could care about me.That I was reenacting a template in reverse that I had learnt from my family.

I used the points you mentioned in your first post Esme and what some of the others said as well. In the email I sent him I said I was "staying the course" and to ignore what I said on tuesday that I would turn up. I only sent that after reading your PM which I promise I will get back to after my exam.

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Old Jan 04, 2018, 03:08 PM
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I have a strong urge to go to session today and tell him I can't do this anymore. Therapy is too hard. I don't know if that would be the best thing for me though.


You're stronger than you think you are NP . I would advocate getting all the support you need right now.
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Old Jan 04, 2018, 03:39 PM
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Old Jan 04, 2018, 03:49 PM
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A quote from the Howes guy (again - I think he an asshole)
Grudge: Given the emotional nature of many therapy issues, it's not surprising that conflicts between therapist and client sometimes occur. If not adequately addressed and resolved in the therapy, some clients bail. Since therapy is where many people go to figure out relationships, this premature ending is both tragic and ironic.

and this:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...i-introduction
I prematurely bailed after ten years.
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Old Jan 04, 2018, 04:07 PM
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I am not 100% sure what I want but "that's all you'd know" felt like a kick in the teeth. An ex of mine died in the last year and I feel completely disenfranchised because I don't know his resting place, what he died from, and I am not able to contact anybody who does know. So I will never know. That hurts.
T telling me essentially the same would be true for him really hurt. I had a dream leading up to this discussion where he died and I went to his house (he has a home office) to sit outside and cry but I had to hide from his wife so she didn't see me grieving. The conclusion of this for me is that grief is a part of love, so if I am not allowed to grieve, how can he say I am allowed to love?
It was a useful discussion and he heard me. Honestly I would probably like to go to his funeral or at least know his resting place.
When I asked, Madame T said I would be told and I would be welcome at the funeral.
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Old Jan 04, 2018, 04:11 PM
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I don’t mean to be an arse but you’d give up on a therapist (who I’ll admit I seriously crush out on, sight unseen — pure love and all that) who is unfortunately, currently (for reasons unknown) addled enough (maybe it’s the snow or the mere prospect of snow?) to try textbook-y therapist-y stuff like reframing and all that crap?

If I were you, I’d go back (as I have done with Blondie) and describe (as Blondie put it yesterday, scathingly) what I think of such therapist-y tactics. But, perhaps, not actually quit?

Don’t mind me though — last night, Blondie vehemently denied that she’d meant “pathetic” in relation to my response but had instead meant it for the moron’s (who’d pissed me off) behavior. And, that she could totally see why I was reacting the way I was reacting.

I kinda realized then that I tend to listen for what I’m used to listening to and not what was actually said / meant?
It's just not sitting well with me. She emailed today to explain why she was saying some of the things she said, which helped shed light on how she sees therapy happening, but I am just not okay with it. I have an appointment that I already paid for next Tuesday and I told her I am considering a break--possibly permanent--after that. But I may just as well not go to that and email my intentions instead. It's a long drive and it's likely she would nod and say okay, and then I would leave in silence and kick myself for doing that in person.

Anyway, a break is not a bad idea, I don't think. I just can't stand the re-framing crap. Or mirroring. I told her a while back that it's not helpful to me. For some reason, it morphed into her repeating my words, which feels mocking and empty. I read up on that technique and found that therapists believe it's supposed to create more of a bond, or trust, or something positive for the person. I don't get it. For me, it's very distancing. I hear myself all day long. I don't need to have someone parrot back my thoughts. She used to be more original and interactive. I don't know what happened. Maybe she is giving up.
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Old Jan 04, 2018, 04:18 PM
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I am such a doofus my cute hipster dental student just called me to schedule an appointment - its always at my birthday and half birthday - so then instead of saying "happy new year" to him as we hung up, i said "happy birthday"! Gosh, what am i, five?!
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I'm feeling really hurt, couchies. My brother just sent a rather hurtful email and I'm sitting here at work with a huge lump in my throat trying not to cry. I'd sent him a Christmas card and a note in it about h and I coming to visit him in Germany as we'd talked about previously, and his email was all "I got your card. If you come..." And he laid down all these rules including that he wouldn't help pay for it. I was like damn, I never asked you to. Why didn't he just say "it's not a good time" and leave it at that? I told him no problem, I'm sorry for whatever I did, we'll just plan something on our own, and nevermind.

I hate my family.
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Old Jan 04, 2018, 04:19 PM
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"I'll always be here for you."
"Unless you have to be somewhere else."
That sounds like something my mother used to say when I was growing up and we kept getting into one bad situation after another, traversing countries. She would say, "We'll be where we are meant to be. Unless we're somewhere else."

eta: She also used to say, "You've only got yourself. No one else is going to be there for you." It was actually her pep talk. She did not have any idea that it was a dire concept to instill in a child.
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Old Jan 04, 2018, 04:22 PM
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I'm feeling really hurt, couchies. My brother just sent a rather hurtful email and I'm sitting here at work with a huge lump in my throat trying not to cry. I'd sent him a Christmas card and a note in it about h and I coming to visit him in Germany as we'd talked about previously, and his email was all "I got your card. If you come..." And he laid down all these rules including that he wouldn't help pay for it. I was like damn, I never asked you to. Why didn't he just say "it's not a good time" and leave it at that? I told him no problem, I'm sorry for whatever I did, we'll just plan something on our own, and nevermind.

I hate my family.
He's a blockhead! Those are his issues, not yours. And it's his loss.

Or as my therapist might say, "It sounds like you're upset."
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