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So what are the causes, what makes people act like that? I've found that even very nice people can end up doing that on some occasions. Ignoring completely innocent texts, online messages, etc. I'd be interested in all kinds of causes, reasons, description of dynamics .... Not just the most common reasons, but anything really that you can think of.
Why I'm personally interested: I'm at the point in my life where I am seriously considering seeing this behaviour as completely unacceptable and extremely rude, like I'm willing to forever cut anyone out of my life who tries to pull that off on me. I am THAT fed up with it. |
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#2
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It depends. Who are these people? I’d be very upset if my daughter or brother or best friend ignored my messages, that’s not happening. But if you get a lot of messages/texts/emails from a lot of people, It’s easy to oversee it. Life is busy. Replying to every single thing isn’t possible or doable so who are these people? Random? Family? Good friends? How well do you know them? What the messages are about?
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#3
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Pretty sure that what I have in mind isn't them just being busy and accidentally overseeing the messages from me. Too much of a pattern. I mean if I now texted them three times over two weeks, and they usually see the messages and texts from me, then surely they couldn't have skipped all three of them by accident now. What they are about, they are about things that do need a response. Example, bf, he was going to do an important bank wire transfer and it had a deadline determined by a contract. And I ask him about it and he doesn't respond (he was in a different country at the time so this was online messaging/texts). And yes I was involved too with the contract, so my asking about this transfer was highly relevant, not just meddling or anything like that. Or person who was supposedly a friend, he doesn't respond to a text, ok, I text again 8 days later, still doesn't respond, I text again after waiting, and I add that I would like to talk about something important with him (it was important yes). I still got ignored. Long story, after a few more messages and stress he did respond but was being really passive aggressive with me in the response. And so on.... Now, you mention family too. Blood family has never ignored any message from me. I can't even imagine them doing so. I mean, close family. As far as the big family, that could be different, an aunt recently did not respond to my email, but I did meet her IRL afterwards so it was irrelevant and no idea if she was deliberately trying to ignore my email. I kinda feel like she was, because she was originally set to meet me and my brother together, we just did not have a set date and time yet. But then she arranged to see my brother and did not contact me first. Then I did get her phoned and ended up seeing her in the end, she did not have a problem with it, and we did have a good talk and discussed the email's topic too just fine, so that's why I am not sure what was up with that one. So yeah, what's up with this outside (close) family. ![]() |
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Yeah they aren’t interested in communicating with you. Why I can’t say. Boyfriend ignoring you… what happened with that relationship? Or was bf a best friend rather than a boyfriend? I hope it wasn’t your money he was wiring. How did he explain why is he ignoring you?
The guy who wasn’t responding to you messaging him repeatedly, how did he explain why he isn’t responding? What made you repeatedly contacting him even though he wasn’t responding? Some people are too cowardly and don’t want to be direct in their communication that they might want to limit or stop the friendship/relationship. So instead they ghost in hopes you get the message. That’s what comes to mind Unsure about your aunt. For whatever reason she was making plans with your brother separate from you. It would be fine if she met with you two separately or didn't even meet with you if that’s what she wanted but again she was cowardly about it |
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#5
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There are *so* many reasons for such behaviour: rudeness, taking people for granted, unawareness, forgetfulness, using other people or fakeness etc. There may even be genuine reasons (something happened, an emergency or distraction by 'real' life or their own crap). Goodness knows what goes on in people's heads or lives.
I agree that it is rude. As for unacceptable, it would depend on people and circumstances. For instance, if it is the same people, same pattern, or people only know you when they need you, then that speaks volumes and yes, it is unacceptable. IF it is a one-off or a behaviour that is unusual from someone, that would be different. |
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As always we can only understand and control ourselves. We can’t really have an answer on why other people do what they do. Focus on your actions
Be more selective who you are friends and partners with. If they repeatedly ignore you, move on and stop pursuing them. With family is a bit different. I don’t suggest you cut ties as there is more to it. But with boyfriends and so called friends, if they ignore and ghost you, move on and don’t waste your time. Don’t continue messaging. Guessing why they ignore you is a waste of time |
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Just my opinion, but I think people honestly don't know HOW to communicate anymore so they avoid, and then add in that the average person is so overly connected by phones, email, social media, etc, maybe it's like system overload?
And that doesn't take into consideration distractions... So, poor self-management and poor communication skills? |
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#8
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I assume they didnt actually block you? I have used block on facebook before on a family member, who was very toxic for me, going no-contact with him has helped me.
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Thanks so much for all the answers.
The thing is I keep feeling like maybe it's something in my communication and then that makes me feel really crappy, but I am realising that it can't be that. Other than, me trying to ask again later if they ignore me. And then I get so frustrated and upset. So I decided now that I will just never ask more than once. I have to do something different if they still ignore it when I ask again. I just don't know what that "something different" would be. It would have to be situation dependent too of course. But some general guidelines would help, if anyone has any suggestions or tips. I'm asking for tips because I always feel so very upset now because these things have repeated far too many times now. So I can't think very well about it anymore when it happens. Quote:
And yes I made 10000% sure that it didn't seem like "naggy" or anything like that when I asked about those future plans. I made totally sure that I was in a relaxed mindset when I asked. Quote:
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It's also kinda awkward if I've been getting along with someone pretty well or we had some mutual cooperation about something (I don't mean business), and then they start pulling this off. Awkward as in can I really just cut them off right away? Last edited by Etcetera1; Mar 08, 2022 at 08:42 PM. |
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No, no actual blocking. |
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So boyfriend doesn’t answer your questions and doesn’t comment yet wants to marry you. Do you want a husband like that? That would be a pretty miserable situation. Do you ask him questions but he just sits there? Not responding? What do you do when that happens? Is he online boyfriend, not actual face to face communication? If it’s real life relationship, it’s absolutely insane if he just sits there.not responding.
I don’t know about cutting off but personally I wouldn’t want a boyfriend who doesn’t answer questions. And I’d sure don’t want to marry men like that You seem to really want to understand why people do what they do. You can’t understand as you aren’t in their head. Just observe their actions. If something is not ok with you, move on |
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I've thought more...
What makes me so upset about this pattern and issue is. These people don't EVER explain why they didn't respond. They just deflect and avoid explaining, worse case they'll lie. So I usually just drop the topic of why they didn't respond. And if it's about important enough stuff I never had any other idea to do other than just repeatedly try to contact the person after I think enough time passed so it doesn't look like too frequent or like harassing. And then it drives me mad crazy having to do this after it's already been a pattern especially if it's with someone I care about or like very much. I mean, having to wait and then having to try again and so on and it's all up in the air and never clear and who knows how long it's gonna go on and ugh. That totally drives me mad frustrated and upset and then I have to really control myself hard to keep that in and not mention to these people how I feel. If I was to try and have empathy like maybe they got distracted or have trouble with how to communicate, that's just so vague to me because it doesn't solve the issue that these people just somehow decide to ignore my messages even if it's about something actually important or something that I myself would definitely try to answer if they asked me. And if I tried to empathise like that, that maybe it's them having communication issues, that makes me feel so crap and pulls me down, because it's like putting a burden on myself accommodating for them even more than I've already tried to. And it feels like accepting their bad attitude towards me. Feels like I'd have to accept disrespect. On top of their already upsetting and driving me crazy. I'd rather not feel all that... So I'm more interested in how to communicate with these people rather than just repeatedly try to ask the same thing over time... If communication can even be done with them when it gets like this. Anecdote , I once was in a weird mindset and I felt like I was assuming these absurdly nice things like being totally "radically open" to the point of it being absurd asking this guy I mentioned, about why he ignored my texts. And I just tried to have like infinite empathy where I ignored how bad he'd made me feel, and asked in this interested, helpful manner and I tried to disclaim every line of mine to make sure he won't think it's some accusation or questioning him, and he instantly goes like, admitting he "f***ed up". I didn't expect that answer at all. That guy tried to screw me over really bad in the end, though. He did some really bad things. I no longer talk to him. |
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I know for me personally, I don't do that to anyone until I have possible had enough of them & it comes after warnings. However I have known some who are clueless about the warnings. Only at that point will I end up blocking them cause I get from others that I know say the person just doesn't get why I would do something like that. I have no control over their understanding....but I do have control over not letting them annoy me whether they get it or not. Usually this happens when someone messes with the peace I have in my life
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If people don’t want to talk to you or don’t like to answer your questions, repeatedly contacting them and trying to word your messages differently serves no purpose. Do you want to wear them out so they start responding? I don’t understand
Is the boyfriend ever coming back? What’s he doing in a different country? How real is it that he plans on marrying you? You lived together and then he up and moved? And now ignores you. It’s a little strange. Kind of doesn’t match how one acts when they plan to marry someone. Are you seeing a therapist? |
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I agree it’s very likely with your bf that if you marry him his behaviour is not likely to change. I’m not sure why he’d ignore you but is it possible you have different contact needs? Like he may not need to stay in touch as often? Or he prefers not to text? What’s he like towards you when you’re together in person?
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If people don't respond, deflect or lie, I would stop engaging with such people.
IF it is important stuff you need from specific people, I would be direct: 'I need this response for [whatever purpose] and I am waiting on you to get back to me'. So tell them explicitly you are waiting on them for X or they didn't get back to you about X. For such people, it would be best to be clear and direct rather than asking them the same thing repeatedly. I would also avoid dealing with these people if at all possible (unless unavoidable) |
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As for the other question, noo I don't have an intention like wear them out. I just simply am not able to move on and skip the issue or whatever it is that needs talking and communication, it's like I'm stopped in my tracks. Or with some of the topics I can try and drop them temporarily but it will make things very uncomfortable, in practice too. Quote:
A note on him. He once did mention in passing that he was trying to "negotiate" with the landlord of the flat he was renting with some other guy at the time. It was about when he was going to move out, or something. And the landlord wanted to discuss, and he was intentionally withholding information. He was like the landlord can just wait while he decides on his own or something. So I know some people intentionally withhold information sometimes and he's one of those people. If that gives any context for this kind of behaviour that upsets me so much,.... I don't know. Quote:
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I don't think some of this fits under different contact needs. In person, he can ignore some of the stuff that I'm saying when it's just conversational stuff. I do want to talk about that too in couples therapy as it obviously does bother me but that's another issue. Quote:
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Can I ask what you meant by some people being unaware when they ignore texts/messages? |
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You wonder what your BF's plans are & you all talked about getting married? If communication is this bad not married, it does NOT get better after marriage especially if they have no interest in talking about anything that they don't want to talk about. Do you really want to live in a dysfunctional relationship that will just continue to frustrate you more as the years go on because frustration adds up over the years....I know, I have been there (33 years in a bad marriage with crappy communication.)
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I have a BFF and we have been friends for 23 years. I realized last week that he hadnt answered a few of my texts going 0n about 3 weeks. So I asked him. I asked him if he wasnt interested in friendship or if I ann0yed him somehow. He responded with; ' I am teaching a college FT and my shows got picked up by the Public theater which means rehearsal every day for a month. It relieved me. But we are so close that we could go month w/o talking and pick up right where we left off.
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By therapy I mean therapy for yourself. Not couple. I’d focus on figuring out why is this pattern of having partners and friends who are so dismissive. You can’t fix these people but you could try to understand patterns in your life and.therapist could help
As about this boyfriend. If you don’t even know his future plans, I’d put marriage plans on hold. He is in a different country and now apparently not even working and he refuses to share his plans with you. Nothing in it spells planning marriage. Wouldn’t you like a relationship with a man who is clear and direct in his communication and his intentions? |
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I think it’s a bad sign he’s ignoring you with in person conversations, and that he also deliberately employs the silent technique on others (his landlord). Is he agreeable to couples counselling? Or is that a topic he is dodging too?
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Maybe he is just dodging the concept of really being a couple & just stringing her along?
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Also if they are a couple with serious plans to be married if think THEY together and not just HE would make plans for the future. It sounds like this guy does whatever suits him and doesn’t even bother share his plans.. |
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