Roll Call Twelve

The_little_didgee · Dec 14, 2013, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by medicalfox

I have over 30 credits in prereqs and I would like to be a clinical laboratory scientist. There is a program near me and I have more than the needed prereqs for the program which is great; I will be applying this spring.

What university program are you applying to? Are you going to transfer some of your junior college credits towards your degree?

You shouldn't have much of a problem coping with the course load (based on your reply in my "Coping with daily life and stress" thread).

The_little_didgee · Dec 14, 2013, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by newtus

it actually has caused such a dry mouth that my throat is dry so i cannot swallow food. i almost choked twice trying to eat. and when the food would go down my trachea - it burned. felt like it was stuck. as if my throat/trachea didnt have enough spit to aid the food going down to my stomach.

I remember struggling with this when I was on Loxapine and Cogentin. Eating moist and watery foods like stews and soups made eating a lot more pleasant.

medicalfox · Dec 14, 2013, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by The_little_didgee

What university program are you applying to? Are you going to transfer some of your junior college credits towards your degree?

You shouldn't have much of a problem coping with the course load (based on your reply in my "Coping with daily life and stress" thread).

I'm going for my associates first in the medical laboratory tech program. Yes I am going to transfer some of my credits over to my next degree.

newtus · Dec 14, 2013, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by The_little_didgee

I remember struggling with this when I was on Loxapine and Cogentin. Eating moist and watery foods like stews and soups made eating a lot more pleasant.

thats interestig becuz in taking cogentin too with tha risperdal

newtus · Dec 14, 2013, 10:20 PM

i still cant get over they put chronic paranoid sz as my diagnoss. maybe its weird seeing it on paper for me. but its also the word "chronic" that makes my stomach turn. prob anxiety from seeing it on paper.

but i wont lie it seems right on. the diagnosis.

its just ...seeing it on paper makes it unbearable to look at.

and my year long question as to why the hoapital pdoc didnt give me a diagnosis during that stay - i think its answered.

they prob didnt cuz "chronic paranoid sz" - maybe they dont want the patients to freak out over it like i am a little...

newtus · Dec 14, 2013, 11:21 PM

also i was just thikning about both atypical and firebird and that thought disorganization thread.

because the doctors reports says i have disorganized speech. even my dad says i have it sometimes. like hell say he doesnt understand my speech. but i cant recognize it well in MYSELF.

i think i may have gottten so used to my own speech that i cant recognize it well. but my thoughts get mish-mashed up a lot. its kinda normal to me. my speech. but its like - its like i dont know either. beceause im not around other people IRL to talk to except my dad.

so this post is for you guys to understand me.
its rare for me to get word salad. i THNK. dont completely know because my own speech is normal to me. but yet im told at the same time - that its not. by mental health people.

i bolded the information below. ones i notice in me and ones that people say i have. like my therapist and pdoc and nurse and dad say to me...

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Alogia (also poverty of speech) – A poverty of speech, either in amount or content; it can occur as a negative symptom of schizophrenia.[1]

Blocking – An abrupt stop in the middle of a train of thought; the individual may or may not be unable to continue the idea.[7] This is type of formal thought disorder that can be seen in schizophrenia.[1]

Circumstantiality (also circumstantial thinking, or circumstantial speech) – An inability to answer a question without giving excessive, unnecessary detail.[7] This differs from tangential thinking, in that the person does eventually return to the original point.

Clanging or Clang association – Ideas that are related only by similar or rhyming sounds rather than actual meaning.[7] This may be heard as excessive rhyming and/or alliteration. e.g. "Many moldy mushrooms merge out of the mildewy mud on Mondays." "I heard the bell. Well, hell, then I fell."

Derailment (also loose association and knight's move thinking) – Ideas slip off the topic's track on to another which is obliquely related or unrelated.[7] e.g. "The next day when I'd be going out you know, I took control, like uh, I put bleach on my hair in California."

Distractible speech – During mid speech, the subject is changed in response to a stimulus. e.g. "Then I left San Francisco and moved to... where did you get that tie?"

Echolalia – Echoing of another's speech[7] that may only be committed once, or may be continuous in repetition. This may involve repeating only the last few words or last word of the examiner's sentences. This can be a symptom of Tourette's Syndrome. e.g. "What would you like for dinner?", "That's a good question. That's a good question. That's a good question. That's a good question."

Evasive interaction – Attempts to express ideas and/or feelings about another individual come out as evasive or in a diluted form, e.g.: "I... er ah... you are uh... I think you have... uh-- acceptable erm... uh... hair."

Flight of ideas – Excessive speech at a rapid rate that involves fragmented or unrelated ideas.[7] It is common in mania.[7]

Illogicality – Conclusions are reached that do not follow logically (non-sequiturs or faulty inferences). e.g. "Do you think this will fit in the box?" draws a reply like "Well duh; it's brown, isn't it?"

Incoherence (word salad) – Speech that is unintelligible because, though the individual words are real words, the manner in which they are strung together results in incoherent gibberish,[7] e.g. the question "Why do people comb their hair?" elicits a response like "Because it makes a twirl in life, my box is broken help me blue elephant. Isn't lettuce brave? I like turtles,[8] hello please!"
Loss of goal – Failure to follow a train of thought to a natural conclusion. e.g. "Why does my computer keep crashing?", "Well, you live in a stucco house, so the pair of scissors needs to be in another drawer."

Neologisms – New word formations.[7] These may also involve elisions of two words that are similar in meaning or in sound. e.g. "I got so angry I picked up a dish and threw it at the geshinker."

Perseveration – Persistent repetition of words or ideas even when another person attempts to change the topic.[7] e.g. "It's great to be here in Nevada, Nevada, Nevada, Nevada, Nevada." This may also involve repeatedly giving the same answer to different questions. e.g. "Is your name Mary?" "Yes." "Are you in the hospital?" "Yes." "Are you a table?" "Yes." Perseveration can include palilalia and logoclonia, and can be an indication of organic brain disease such as Parkinson's.

Phonemic paraphasia – Mispronunciation; syllables out of sequence. e.g. "I slipped on the lice and broke my arm."

Pressure of speech – Unrelenting, rapid speech without pauses.[7] It may be difficult to interrupt the speaker, and the speaker may continue speaking even when a direct question is asked.

Self-reference – Patient repeatedly and inappropriately refers back to self. e.g. "What's the time?", "It's 7 o'clock. That's my problem."

Semantic paraphasia – Substitution of inappropriate word. e.g. "I slipped on the coat, on the ice I mean, and broke my book."

Stilted speech – Speech characterized by the use of words or phrases that are flowery, excessive, and pompous.[7] e.g. "The attorney comported himself indecorously."

Tangentiality – Wandering from the topic and never returning to it or providing the information requested.[7] e.g. in answer to the question "Where are you from?", a response "My dog is from England. They have good fish and chips there. Fish breathe through gills."

Word approximations – Old words used in a new and unconventional way. e.g. "His boss was a seeover."

newtus · Dec 14, 2013, 11:23 PM

the last two and circumstantily are the ones i notice in my self. expecially circumstantility - which ive been told by nearly everyone i meet that i do that. thats how i learned about that one. but all the rest ive been told i do by mental health ppros and my dad. cuz i live with my dad you know.

FireBird · Dec 14, 2013, 11:29 PM

I have clanging, neologisms, derailment, word salad occasional echolalia (due to autism), pressure of speech, flight of ideas (when manic).

I am very depressed like a realist. At least at night I have a decrease in symptoms and during the middle of the day its the worst. Demons everywhere. Stuff. Concentration is difficult as my brother.

The_little_didgee · Dec 15, 2013, 12:52 AM

This is an interesting one: Incoherence (word salad). I heard this a few times. Once you hear it you never forget it.

newtus · Dec 15, 2013, 01:24 AM

the most recent time i had word salad it was so jumlbed up.
i said something like "i know how fbi plain janes watch you. using capri sun river bubbles".

that was sentence. i had NO clue i was saying my speech like that. it was nomral to me.
still is. under i woke up the next morning and left my text messenger up. i read what i said and it was completely incohrent. word salad.

newtus · Dec 15, 2013, 01:33 AM

even thoug i didnt understand immediately ... i understood eventually what i was saying in that sentence. and theres MORE sentences i said but i cant remember them ATM.

so what i meant by that sentence in my last post
i was in a very psychotics state at the time.

sentence meant/translated from my incoherence: that i knew how unmarked planes sent into watch by the fbi. i also meant and believe was that everytime i would drink a capri sun they would fly their unmarked planes vover my house. - and the bubbles in the drink were sending message up to the sky through teleportation - and located me from 200 ft in the air becuase the bubbles in the capri sun were sending microwave air waves and sound waves and such to spy on me.

^^^hope tjat makes sense^^^

medicalfox · Dec 15, 2013, 05:24 AM

The air smells like clipped human nails and the voices were telling me horrible things. I texted my boyfriend and he calmed me down then I took an extra dose of risperdal to stop the voices. I wish the smell would go away because it is very distressing and I'm going to try to study to help me feel better.

newtus · Dec 15, 2013, 05:51 AM

hey

its 4am
im sitting in a parking lot

medicalfox · Dec 15, 2013, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by newtus

hey

its 4am
im sitting in a parking lot

How come?

costello · Dec 15, 2013, 06:25 AM

What do clipped human nails smell like?

medicalfox · Dec 15, 2013, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by costello

What do clipped human nails smell like?

They have their own distinct smell. If you file your nails you can smell the odor better, especially if your hand is near your face right after filing. Idk why I would be smelling this, I usually smell different things. Life is strange, but at least I'm understanding it better.

costello · Dec 15, 2013, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by medicalfox

They have their own distinct smell. If you file your nails you can smell the odor better, especially if your hand is near your face right after filing. Idk why I would be smelling this, I usually smell different things. Life is strange, but at least I'm understanding it better.

I have a very poor sense of smell. I wasn't aware nail clippings smelled like anything.

junkDNA · Dec 15, 2013, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by newtus

risperdal is having a lot of side effects on me right now: blurred vision. dry mouth. cant eat/swallow. loss of appetite. those are the main ones im experiencing

theres this mouthwash called biotene that helps with dry mouth.

medicalfox · Dec 15, 2013, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by costello

I have a very poor sense of smell. I wasn't aware nail clippings smelled like anything.

No, not nail clippings. I meant clipped nails right after you clip your finger nails. It's not that important of a matter so if no one understands what I mean that's okay. The smell went away which is good and it's time for bed.

KUREHA · Dec 15, 2013, 11:47 AM

Nurse said I looked tired again, coz I'm not sleeping much and didn't want to take my sleeping meds.
Sleeping with my knife under my pillow, to keep safe.

Might be getting my meds changed.

cybermember · Dec 15, 2013, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by newtus

also i was just thikning about both atypical and firebird and that thought disorganization thread.

because the doctors reports says i have disorganized speech. even my dad says i have it sometimes. like hell say he doesnt understand my speech. but i cant recognize it well in MYSELF.

i think i may have gottten so used to my own speech that i cant recognize it well. but my thoughts get mish-mashed up a lot. its kinda normal to me. my speech. but its like - its like i dont know either. beceause im not around other people IRL to talk to except my dad.

so this post is for you guys to understand me.
its rare for me to get word salad. i THNK. dont completely know because my own speech is normal to me. but yet im told at the same time - that its not. by mental health people.

i bolded the information below. ones i notice in me and ones that people say i have. like my therapist and pdoc and nurse and dad say to me...

newtus, know that a couple of the descriptor's are not indicative just to schizophrenia.

Take for instance Circumstatiality - an inability to answer a question without giving unnecessary detail. My housemate, Miss MBA, is notorious for this. I dread asking her a question because it takes an hour for her to give me a simple answer because she throws everything in but the kitchen sink. She is not diagnosed nor seem to have with any mental illness.

Then there's Distractible Speech - during mid-speech, the subject is changed in response to a stimulus, e.g. "Then I left for SF and moved to ... where did you get that tie?" My other housemate who is now a retired special ED teacher is guilty of this on numerous occasions but he has ADHD and not a mental illness. I have to say it's very frustrating talking to him sometimes when I'm really serious about something.

For me, although I don't have ADHD I get distractible speech when manic.

Just so you know, there are variables to diagnostic labels and what is considered a true mental disorder/illness and what shouldn't be misconstrued as such.

Dec 15, 2013, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Atypical_Disaster

Thanks Willow. It's just so frustrating! I'm running out of patience with the whole thing. Right now talking has been difficult because of the whole "poverty of speech" thing flaring up for me lately, but it does help to have somewhere safe to go to talk about things or to just be even if I can't say much. I think saying that anything, MI or not, is "all biological" is a stretch. Even if it is all biological it doesn't mean we're somehow not human and don't need support just as much as the next person sometimes.

If they're a good therapist, they shouldn't mind you sitting there and not saying a single word occasionally. I know I've done that myself and it was nice for that to be accepted.

Atypical

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Originally Posted by cybermember

Thanks.

Yes, I have a therapist but I don't think she is taking me seriously that I have a tumor. I'm thinking she thinks I'm delusional. I texted her today and told her I'm stressing out because I have to go for a colonoscopy checkup on Monday, bake cookies all day Tuesday, drive an hour to see the endo Wednesday to go over my crazy lab results and then drive another hour to see her thereafter for our therapy appt. She blew me off by saying she thinks I'm doing fine. I think if I was really fine I wouldn't have texted her that I was stressing out in the first place. SMH.

But, yes, I do have you all here on Psych Central for support. Thank you to you and everyone else here. I also have my two housemates. Well, I only told the retired teacher housemate but not Ms. MBA. I'm sure my housemate flapped his gums to Ms. MBA, but I could be wrong.

I need to go take a shower and then go to WildDivineOnline.com and meditate. Maybe that will help bring down my stress level.

I'm sorry your therapist doesn't believe you. Maybe you could give her your other doctor's number so it can be verified? At least then she will stop invalidating you and can support you instead

Cyber

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Originally Posted by The_little_didgee

My anxiety is really bad right now. I am feeling nauseated. The last few days have been rough on me. I failed my first exam, something that has never ever happened to me before.

Every November depression enters into my head. This year it is bad and has been interfering with school and motivation. It has gotten to the point where I don't feel like doing anything at all. Now, I am thinking about getting an exam deferral and taking the next semester off.

I'm so sorry that you failed your exam

Didgee

I know when I failed exams in medschool I was devastated, but I learnt that it really really isn't the end of the world and happens to almost everyone at one point or another. I'm sorry that you're struggling with depression. Is there anyone at the University you can talk over your decision to defer exams and take time off with?

*Willow*

cybermember · Dec 15, 2013, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by WeepingWillow23

I'm sorry your therapist doesn't believe you. Maybe you could give her your other doctor's number so it can be verified? At least then she will stop invalidating you and can support you instead

Cyber

*Willow*

My therapist seems to have changed her tone about an hour after our last text communication. She asked me if I would like to come in earlier if that would help out. I quickly agreed because I wouldn't have to drive an hour home then drive another hour back up 4 hours later because my endo and therapist are somewhat in the same area. If I get done early with my endo appt. before it's time for my therapy appt. then I'll just go grab something to eat.

newtus · Dec 15, 2013, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by junkDNA

theres this mouthwash called biotene that helps with dry mouth.

i just saw that on tv commercial. ima maybe get some biotene.

newtus · Dec 15, 2013, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by cybermember

newtus, know that a couple of the descriptor's are not indicative just to schizophrenia.

Take for instance Circumstatiality - an inability to answer a question without giving unnecessary detail. My housemate, Miss MBA, is notorious for this. I dread asking her a question because it takes an hour for her to give me a simple answer because she throws everything in but the kitchen sink. She is not diagnosed nor seem to have with any mental illness.

Then there's Distractible Speech - during mid-speech, the subject is changed in response to a stimulus, e.g. "Then I left for SF and moved to ... where did you get that tie?" My other housemate who is now a retired special ED teacher is guilty of this on numerous occasions but he has ADHD and not a mental illness. I have to say it's very frustrating talking to him sometimes when I'm really serious about something.

For me, although I don't have ADHD I get distractible speech when manic.

Just so you know, there are variables to diagnostic labels and what is considered a true mental disorder/illness and what shouldn't be misconstrued as such.

i do know that
i was merely picking the ones that the pdoc says i have problems with.

also when i got my hospital records the pdoc also wrote that i have disorganizd speech a long with multiple symptoms seen in Sz.
which you know obviously like i said he diagnosed me with paranoid sz

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