Roll Call 60

have fun n be safe!

Have a great time!

Will do! Thanks guys!

morning.

im throwing up and have diarrhea from eating dairy from chocolate from buying chocolate for my birthday and from my birthday cake.

Sorry to hear that, newtus
I hope you feel better soon

That sucks. I hope you feel better soon. Isn't your birthday on the 27th?

My son's in the hospital. The social worker called me and asked about him. I told her he was stable but that he didn't seem to get a lot of pleasure from life. I spoke at length - maybe five minutes. I said he needed to have a reason to get up in the morning, something to do that he enjoys. Then she asked me if he ever talked to me about the voices he hears.

Why is that the most interesting thing about him? Or maybe I'm reading too much into the question.

She also wanted to know if he's med-compliant. It's probably just my mistrust of mental health people that's making me wonder about her.

sorry costello. I know he wants without meds , but he is on so little , it seems like its a placebo more than anything else.

in terms of the voices , maybe you could try and find out the circumstances of him going in their

yes it is

sorry to hear costello.

i have mistrust in mental health professionals. they put too much emphasis on the psychosis and not enough on the other factors like how much sleep is he getting-nutrition-exercise-etc.

sorry thats my perspective because it all ties together. its possible tho that he is on too little meds tho.

He's taking 5 mg of olanzapine. He was doing better IMO on the much lower dose.

All right the last time I heard he was down to .25 or something. Yeah 5mg should have some therapeutic benefit. I don't wanna ask 2 many questions , I guess you'll get to talk to him soon.

He hasn't called all day. He called briefly yesterday evening to let me know where he was.

He said he was suicidal yesterday morning. I told him I'd take him to the hospital, but then he drank some bleach. He only drank it after I told him three times that it wouldn't kill him, so I don't think it was a genuine attempt. I think he's just really unhappy with his life and wants it to change.

Maybe this new place has something to offer. We'll see.

It just creeped me out that they were focusing on voices instead of how hopeless he seems to feel. People can learn to live with voices. There's no point in medicating the bejeezus out of him trying to eradicate them altogether. The last time they tried that he ended up a zombie - and he was still paranoid and hearing voices.

I just hope they address the real problem he's having now - he doesn't see a reason to go on. He doesn't enjoy anything.

Its hard what can I say , just a reminder that we are all fragile , could be anyone's story. Maybe ask the doctor straight up is there any specific reason they are concentrating on the voices.

We haven't got to the doctor yet. At least I haven't. Just the social worker. And it could just be that she asked that because I didn't address it in my comments. She just asked me to tell her what was going on without asking specific questions. After I'd spoken my piece, she asked about the voices. I guess I don't think about them, because it's just part of who my son is. It's not remarkable to me, so I didn't remark on it.

They will probably start him on an increased course of meds. It is though going to be hard to find out how med compliant he was. The unfortunate thing is that even if he was compliant on 5mgs , any doctor looking at it will say that's next to nothing , and automatically increase his dosage. Just going to be too easy an option for the pdocs

At the hookah bar again....Lol. School tomorrow.

He's med compliant. I have no concerns about that. Raising the dose would be a mistake, I think. I suspect the dose is too high at the moment which is why he's feeling so crappy.

Alright best of luck with it. Hopefully he can turn it around soon.

again sorry to hear costello. thinking of you! glad to see you on roll call but not at a tumultuous time.

Costello - I'm so sorry to hear that your son is in hospital. to both of you. I think your fears about overmedication are justified. I'm inclined to think that your son might be one of the med-sensitive people and that 5mg olanzapine, which is very little to lots of pdocs, might be too much, but increasing that is highly likely to be their first step :/

Hope is so important IMO. If I have even a tiny speck of hope, I can deal with anything and not feel remotely suicidal, but if my hope disappears, then I see absolutely no point in continuing. I am fortunate in that I am currently making big positive changes in my life (moving cities to return to Uni next month), and the boost to my self-esteem at moving forward with my life, and the strong hope that it will be better this time, is buoying me up; no matter how hard they attempt to sabotage me. The noise is horrendously loud right now, but I have hope that I can do this anyway. I hope that your son gets the spark of hope back very soon - it might help foster hope to remind him how far he has come, and therefore he can do it again

All the best to you both

*Willow*

It's my last volunteer session tomorrow! Whoop whoop!

*Willow*

really sorry to see this costello... i hope things improve for him.

Oh no,

I am so sorry to hear about your son, Costello
I wish him a speedy recover y

Also, I noticed with psychosis it seems like most pdoc's are only interested in getting rid of psychosis and not solving underlying problems or co morbid problems. Like, their interpretation is that every little whisper must be gone before they can work on other symptoms.
I find that to be true with trauma too, like the voices and hallucinations are more important to them than treatment for trauma.

Thanks, Willow, jD, and Kori. He hasn't called today, and that always stresses me.

I agree, Willow, that he's probably very sensitive to medications. He was very stable and doing very well on a tiny dose. Something like .625 mg. 5 mg is huge compared to that.