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Old Jan 16, 2016, 02:51 PM
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Well if they're going to be quiet after I turn off the sources of noise in here, maybe there's my solution. They'll never know when or if I'm recording. I don't know, though. They can do it quieter and I'd still hear it, but too quiet to be picked up on the recorder.

I'll see. Best thing is to get them at it tomorrow morning. If I can. They do it often, but sometimes they don't do it for like 30 or 45 minutes and there's that interval still recorded.

ETA: he has his music on now, and that's getting recorded. Not sure if they'll be silent now for two hours.

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Old Jan 16, 2016, 02:52 PM
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^ There is no way they are clued into you recording them.

If they stop when you are quiet, maybe you should try and occupy yourself in ways they can't hear? Might just stop then...

I doubt the police would want to take your recordings. All that would happen is they would take your complaints seriously & not put up with excuses from your neighbours.

*edit* - you got there just before me... said the same thing.
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Old Jan 16, 2016, 02:55 PM
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^ There is no way they are clued into you recording them.

If they stop when you are quiet, maybe you should try and occupy yourself in ways they can't hear? Might just stop then...

I doubt the police would want to take your recordings. All that would happen is they would take your complaints seriously & not put up with excuses from your neighbours.

*edit* - you got there just before me... said the same thing.
I am pretty quiet in here except for my TV. Why would you say they're not going to be clued in to my recording them? They are much better at these disgusting situations than I am. They're aggressors and criminals.
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Old Jan 16, 2016, 03:02 PM
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I will not live somewhere I do not feel safe.

You mentioned something about contacting the Samaritans.

I encourage you to do just that!

Perhaps they can help you find safer living arrangements.

Forget recordings and attempting to "catch" your neighbors in the act.

That could escalate the situation and put you in even more danger.

Hope you find a solution sooner than later!

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Old Jan 16, 2016, 03:16 PM
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I am pretty quiet in here except for my TV. Why would you say they're not going to be clued in to my recording them? They are much better at these disgusting situations than I am. They're aggressors and criminals.
How exactly would they infer you are recording them from the fact you are being quiet?

You don't think they are recording you when they go quiet, so neither should they. That is not a logical thing to think.

Maybe Pfrog is right that the best thing to do is get out of there, even temporarily although I understand that might not be practical for you.

My concern is though, that there is an element of psychosis to this & even if you did move, you'd hear loud noises & think someone else had started up. Even though I've not said it recently, I still think you need to talk this over with your p-doc because there have been elements of it that are symptomatic.

Sure, maybe the noise is triggering, but that means your meds aren't working properly.
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Old Jan 16, 2016, 03:37 PM
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How exactly would they infer you are recording them from the fact you are being quiet?

You don't think they are recording you when they go quiet, so neither should they. That is not a logical thing to think.

Maybe Pfrog is right that the best thing to do is get out of there, even temporarily although I understand that might not be practical for you.

My concern is though, that there is an element of psychosis to this & even if you did move, you'd hear loud noises & think someone else had started up. Even though I've not said it recently, I still think you need to talk this over with your p-doc because there have been elements of it that are symptomatic.

Sure, maybe the noise is triggering, but that means your meds aren't working properly.
Loial, meds have never worked for the trigger!
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Old Jan 16, 2016, 03:39 PM
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I will not live somewhere I do not feel safe.

You mentioned something about contacting the Samaritans.

I encourage you to do just that!

Perhaps they can help you find safer living arrangements.

Forget recordings and attempting to "catch" your neighbors in the act.

That could escalate the situation and put you in even more danger.

Hope you find a solution sooner than later!

Sincerely,
Pfrog!

The solution is someone asking me if I want to move cross country again to a tiny place with great amenities. I don't know what to do. Always had problems in that location.

ETA: They are being careful now because they know they will be the prime suspects if anything happens to me. I've been very worried about a break in or home intrusion. Thank you for reminding me they are dangerous. But I want the police to believe me.

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Old Jan 16, 2016, 03:44 PM
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^ I know it can be difficult depending on insight, but have you not tried learning any coping mechanisms?

In my experience realty checking can work with persistence. Before I ever went to a doctor, I would question what my voices were telling me or the fact I thought they were real for months but I did gradually gain insight.

You've got to try something, otherwise this trigger will keep setting you off no matter where you are.
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Old Jan 16, 2016, 03:57 PM
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Loial, meds have never worked for the trigger!
And I'm sure they know I'm recording. That's why they're stopped triggering right now since I'm recording.

You are making a lot of statements that are opposed to mine. That in certain situations can be helpful but I know these people better than you do, since I've been around them for five years. However, they are more dangerous than I ever thought.
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Old Jan 16, 2016, 04:11 PM
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They are still triggering here and there, but not loud enough or often enough to be distinguishable from not deliberately doing it. I probably need to catch them tomorrow morning if they ambush me again.
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Old Jan 16, 2016, 04:13 PM
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^ I know it can be difficult depending on insight, but have you not tried learning any coping mechanisms?

In my experience realty checking can work with persistence. Before I ever went to a doctor, I would question what my voices were telling me or the fact I thought they were real for months but I did gradually gain insight.

You've got to try something, otherwise this trigger will keep setting you off no matter where you are.
That's been my life since I was a small child. That's why I've lived in isolation all my life. I just want my life to be over now.

They are doing stuff, just not with enough frequency.
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Old Jan 16, 2016, 04:20 PM
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If I call the police and ask them to come here to talk to me, they might tell the city about the clutter and lead to me getting evicted.

Now I don't know what to do again. The police aren't going to help me. Even if they talk to these freaks, the freaks can lie, claiming the triggers had nothing to do with me. That's what will happen, and then they'll find additional ways to torture me. I'm not good at this crap. Predators always win.

I have no money for moving and no one to help me with that. I'm sick of everything. I'm sick of being shown other places I can never move into.
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Old Jan 16, 2016, 04:22 PM
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They are making noises from various means, I'm hearing stuff but with the ear plugs in I can't identify the noises. I could listen back to the recording if I want to brave that. Don't want to. I'm already tortured enough.
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Old Jan 16, 2016, 04:26 PM
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Tonight is two weeks since this all started with POUNDING and stamping ambush. Last Saturday I was afraid for my life. What will happen this time? Oh God. If I tried to go inpatient, they could break in here. And no one at the hospital would believe me.
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Old Jan 16, 2016, 04:35 PM
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In the past half hour they've been throwing sand or something at my window again. They did that for the first time this past week.
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Old Jan 16, 2016, 05:06 PM
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Angelique, seriously... they're just feckin' with ya. Just ignore them. It's really not a big deal, we've all had noisy neighbours and you've let slip a few times that you're doing things to annoy them too. You're giving yourself unnecessary stress and will end up having a bloody stroke. Things could be so much worse, try to relax. Try and help yourself, practice mindfulness, eat an orange. Just chill!
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Old Jan 16, 2016, 09:23 PM
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I recorded a few hours worth of clean recording (not much of me on it). I should try listening back to some. They got more active after the sun went down. So from around 4:30 and 8:30 they were most active. If the phone picked any of it up, I can hopefully demonstrate it for the police.

I'm very tortured by the triggering. I can't stand it.
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Old Jan 16, 2016, 10:18 PM
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This has to stop somehow. I have no money to move, and I don't know how I'm going to be able to stay here with this sick crap happening. I still haven't gotten food because I'm never sure I'll be here everyday
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Old Jan 17, 2016, 12:22 AM
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This has to stop somehow. I have no money to move, and I don't know how I'm going to be able to stay here with this sick crap happening. I still haven't gotten food because I'm never sure I'll be here everyday
Do you have any family or friends Angelique? Anyone that can help you in real life? Because we, here on PsychCentral, all support you the best we can but your neighbours don't care (they don't even know ^^') and if the police or landlord won't help you, something has to happen. It can't go on much longer so someone in rl must help you somehow otherwise things will only worsen!

Did you talk to your neighbours upstairs and downstairs lately? I think that would be a good idea because a), they might tell you why they're acting this way, b), they might stop, c), if they do even more noise because you went to them, they'll fu** themselves up because you'll be able to record them doing even more noise and the police will have to do something, if not, go higher in the hierarchy, call the media, the government, they'll be forced to do something somehow. It will take a lot of courage, determination and probably will be even worse than your worst nightmares but your problems will be solved! Be tough with them though, if you show signs of weaknesses, they won't take you seriously. I know what I'm suggesting you to do is not easy, far from that but it might work!

Keep holding on Angelique, we're all with you in spirit.
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Old Jan 17, 2016, 12:29 AM
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Thank you, Lazarus. I have no one to talk to about this. And I can't do the other things you mentioned.

I am in awful despair. I just spoke to my one and only friend and he seemed so distant and uninvolved with me. I can't tell my mother about what's happening because it's too much stress for her. And the only other person won't talk about it with me.

I'm just completely alone IRL. And I'm in this place, with so much clutter, and I can't get rid of the stuff without someone to help me. I need help organizing and carrying stuff out to the trash.

I keep thinking I want to go back to the past, when my best friend and cat were alive. I miss them so much.
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I keep thinking I want to go back to the past, when my best friend and cat were alive. I miss them so much.
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Good morning, Angelique,

It looks as if the trigger code either doesn't work with Tapatalk or just doesn't work, the latter being my experience.

It looks as if you made that last post around midnight, my time. I don't think that I need to tell you that you need to make a call if you even get close to suicidal ideations, do I?

I have similar desires of wanting to return to the past, back to the times when I experienced happiness, love and warmth. The same feelings that I have during a psychotic episode most of the time.

Last night I went through another time loss but I was able to check the cameras this time! I seemed to be sleeping most of the time but I opened my iPad four times and went into the bathroom once. If nothing else, the video was comforting – I didn't do anything dangerous.

Today I'm going to look for affordable "spyware" for my iPad. Two cameras record that I'm using the device and one camera barely show the screen but the screen area is blown out by the light of the screen.

I hope that you'll check in soon. The desire to return to a safe time in the past is normal and comforting, but planning suicide isn't and I'm sure that you know that.

Call back...

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Old Jan 17, 2016, 02:29 PM
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I second Ciderguy, Angelique. Don't do anything rash. Life is the greatest privilege us humans being can be given, along with health. Think of all the people that died because of cancer, I bet they wish they could have survived... We're all lucky just to still be alive after all those years so don't waste that chance my dear. It's better to live a not-so-optimal yet life than not living at all. Trust me. My mother often tried to commit suicide when I was younger, nowadays, she thanks God for not having done it and being able to see me grow. Think about it.
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Old Jan 17, 2016, 07:36 PM
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Good morning, Angelique,

It looks as if the trigger code either doesn't work with Tapatalk or just doesn't work, the latter being my experience.

It looks as if you made that last post around midnight, my time. I don't think that I need to tell you that you need to make a call if you even get close to suicidal ideations, do I?

I have similar desires of wanting to return to the past, back to the times when I experienced happiness, love and warmth. The same feelings that I have during a psychotic episode most of the time.

Last night I went through another time loss but I was able to check the cameras this time! I seemed to be sleeping most of the time but I opened my iPad four times and went into the bathroom once. If nothing else, the video was comforting – I didn't do anything dangerous.

Today I'm going to look for affordable "spyware" for my iPad. Two cameras record that I'm using the device and one camera barely show the screen but the screen area is blown out by the light of the screen.

I hope that you'll check in soon. The desire to return to a safe time in the past is normal and comforting, but planning suicide isn't and I'm sure that you know that.

Call back...

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Hi Ciderguy.

I'm sorry I said that but I'm not doing well under the barrage of triggering I'm getting here. They are just biding their time until I do something drastic. I can't take it anymore. Even with earplugs and the tinny sounding music on my phone, plus the TV on, they are doing it pretty loudly and even if I don't hear it clearly I know they did it. Sometimes I'm able to cast it aside (my physical reaction) but most of the time I'm not able to, and I'm going to have to call the police. I don't know what else I can do. But they'll probably want me to go inpatient. I'm not sure I'd be admitted. I just don't care to go.

As much as I wish this were all over, I don't have a method that doesn't scare me too much. I've thought of a few but I don't actually want to go through with them. I'd like to be at the destination without the rough travel to get there.

I'm glad you got your security system set up! That must be pretty neat. I've seen devs advertise their spyware for both Android and iPhone. I hope you'll find one you like.
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Old Jan 17, 2016, 07:43 PM
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I second Ciderguy, Angelique. Don't do anything rash. Life is the greatest privilege us humans being can be given, along with health. Think of all the people that died because of cancer, I bet they wish they could have survived... We're all lucky just to still be alive after all those years so don't waste that chance my dear. It's better to live a not-so-optimal yet life than not living at all. Trust me. My mother often tried to commit suicide when I was younger, nowadays, she thanks God for not having done it and being able to see me grow. Think about it.
Hi Lazarus. I'm sorry your mom made attempts at suicide, that must have been awful to go through. I appreciate what you said. I'm not sure if being triggered constantly which is absolute physical and psychological torture for me is better than not being around. Of course I want to win this war but they have strength of numbers and evil. They are lower than maggots but just as victorious.

I'm feeling especially overcome by hell right now. I don't know what to do. I think they called the police early last week to try to paint me as the bad one. But I called the police two weeks ago when these sacks of $&1Ά started this nightmare. Isn't there a law against torturing a disabled person? If not there should be.
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I keep thinking I want to go back to the past, when my best friend and cat were alive. I miss them so much.
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You need to go to the ER now, just get it over with, they can help you
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