[valbends]

is it wrong to know how you would kill yourself, even if you could never in a million years do that to yourself?

Through each others weaknesses we find comfort.

[Rapunzel]

How do you mean wrong? I don't feel like it can be considered morally wrong just to know something. But if you mean does it mean that something is wrong, well suicidal ideation is not a good sign, even when you don't want to act on it. It's a sign of depression, and probably an indicator that you should talk to somebody about it. But it doesn't mean that you would do it.

Is any of that what you are asking?

<font color=purple>"The real problem of mental life is not why some people become insane, but rather why most avoid insanity." -Erich Fromm</font color=purple>

[valbends]

it's just that i know how i would kill myself, i guess to think of the way that would be the least painful way, just because i'm thinking that, not because i actually want to do it, and i need a way to... if that made any sense at all... im good at confusing people!

Through each others weaknesses we find comfort.

[Peanut61]

Thoughts are NOT action. Sometimes suicidal ideation can be a stress valve that releases pressure, but like Rapunzel said, it is not a very good sign, and indicates depression may be lurking around. Please take good care. Your friend, Peanut

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[Zenobia]

Hey Valbends,
I know how I am going to kill myself, I have know for years. I have always thought of it as an option. You know when the pain got really bad I would think "I can always kill myself if I can't take it anymore" then somehow I managed to continue on. "It is always an option," was second nature to me. Now it still is an option but I don't want it to be anymore. I guess I have worked my way out of the worst of it but changing the thinking is difficult. I can't help but think of it because I have used the ideation of suicide as a comfort for so long. It scary to me now. Guess that is a good thing, huh?
Carrie

<font color=green>Not knowing when the dawn will come, I open every door.--Emily Dickenson

[moonlight]

knowing how you would kill yourself is alright-but knowing how is not the same thing as dwelling on how you would kill yourself--it really can be self destructive--negative thoughts are burrs that can get stuck in your head--
it can be frightening to think of how you would kill yourself--I don't think it is wrong, but it is cause for concern

<font color=purple> Whatever you can do, or believe you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic in it.
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[LadyDragus]

knowing how to kill yourslef is not the bad thing.
But when you sit down and say, these are the steps, That is bad.. Or when you write it in a journa how it would be done, or list the ways to have it done, that is bad.

being deperssed as most of us are when we come to this place can lead to hurting ourselves, and other things.

Knowing how, is somewhat a wrong thing, but as long as you never act on it, or really sit and think is this the only way out, you are doing better than some of us.
There are many ways out, and killing oursleves is not one of THEM

sorry,

<font color=purple>The way to love anything is to realize that it might be lost.
- G.K. Chesterton
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[Zenobia]

Suicide shouldn't be an option, I agree, but sometimes thinking gets skewed. It is a good indicator that a person needs help. So a person could say it is wrong but I would rather say it is a disfunctional coping mechanism that CAN be replaced with other methods. Unfortunately thinking about dying is so much easier then dealing with what is causing those feelings. The fact that I thought of it as an option and that thought comforted me shows just how badly I needed help. The fact that I am a fairly happy individual now and still have suicidal thoughts shows just how seductive and dangerous (addictive?) those thoughts can be.
Carrie

<font color=green>Not knowing when the dawn will come, I open every door.--Emily Dickenson

[PlanningtoLive]

{{{{{{{{{Carrie}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} how true.

It is easier and it feels so much more calming that dealing with the problems. They are addictive and very hard to get rid of.

Take care, and nice to see you.

Mary Alice

[LadyDragus]

yes I understand that, but now Val is no longer on here, so I do not know how we can help her anymore..
This was meant to get her to understand I care about her and I do not want her to go, or do anything sillie..

Sorry

<font color=purple>The way to love anything is to realize that it might be lost.
- G.K. Chesterton
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