[marjan]

I don't know how to control myself....all the hard work I have done past few months to control my anxiety and to stay up and running has gone.....what's going on with me again?
All I want is just crying crying and do nothing....
I got appointment with a T for tomorrow evening....hope that works....
Although, I'm so hungry, but I lost my appetite....can't believe that.....

[lynn P.]

((Marjan)) There's a natural supplement available called Natural Calm(magnesium). Are you limiting caffeinated beverages and doing deep breathing exercises? You can also write down what's bothering you into 2 columns - one side are problems/worries you can do something about and the other you can't control - cross out the ones you can change/control. Engage in calming activities or things that bring you joy.

[marjan]

Originally Posted by lynn P.

((Marjan)) There's a natural supplement available called Natural Calm(magnesium). Are you limiting caffeinated beverages and doing deep breathing exercises? You can also write down what's bothering you into 2 columns - one side are problems/worries you can do something about and the other you can't control - cross out the ones you can change/control. Engage in calming activities or things that bring you joy.

I will check the supplement for sure....and I try to write the anxiety triggers....I know exactly what are the causes for my anxiety this time....there are three things at a same time....I did some work for one of them and hope I get some answers then I can put that behind....
I used to do lots of meditations, but it feels my breath doesn't come out

thanks for the help
marjan

[lynn P.]

When I was a child I was painfully shy with social anxiety. I managed to handle it on my own, but the anxiety creeps in when I'm stressed out. Sometimes I notice that I'm barely breathing - only doing short little breath, just enough to keep me alive lol. So I have to make the effort to exhale all the way, then take in a full lungs worth of air. When I'm in the shower and rinsing the shampoo out, I imagine all my worries going down the drain.

[owen2110]

I suffer from anxiety too, it pretty much comes and goes whenever it feels like it.....the big thing is how I react.

If I accept it, ride it out it will soon pass. If I try and stop it it gets worse and worse.

[lynn P.]

Originally Posted by owen2110

I suffer from anxiety too, it pretty much comes and goes whenever it feels like it.....the big thing is how I react.

If I accept it, ride it out it will soon pass. If I try and stop it it gets worse and worse.

That's a good point you made about riding it out. Especially if a person has panic attacks, it's good to just accept it's there and don't worry about it. Don't feed the fear is a great motto.

Take care of yourself, marjan. Hope this passes soon.

[marjan]

thank guys....yes, I have to try to let it go....
I pay attention that I breath very shallow....it seems I don't want to breath deep also I know it makes me feel better....
I went out for a lunch with a coworker and I was able to eat....that's good, because I was so hungry but not having appetite to eat....strange...ha?
It's so interesting....always after being so good for awhile, all these anxiety come back to me....always....

[YoungPilotAstray]

Hey marjan, really sorry to hear that, that thread you wrote about your new date was so positive and heartwarming.

I hope you get through it soon and take good care of yourself. I agree with the advice of riding it out. It will go away.

Wish you all the best.

[PleaseHelp]

I hope things get better marjan. I have been told when I get anxious I hold my breath. I don't notice it, but other people do. When I'm starting to get worked up or am real anxious my bf or others will look at me and say "BREATHE!" Sometimes they even have to shake me to get my attention. I don't realize I'm holding my breath. It does help if they deep breath with me.

Lynn I like the image of everything going down the drain.

[marjan]

Originally Posted by YoungPilotAstray

Hey marjan, really sorry to hear that, that thread you wrote about your new date was so positive and heartwarming.

I hope you get through it soon and take good care of yourself. I agree with the advice of riding it out. It will go away.

Wish you all the best.

I know....I'm happy to meet him....but that cause me anxiety and it's not just that....it's other stuff in my life and work that all together cause me so much anxiety....I'm going to see a doctor tomorrow and tonight I'm going to do some exercise....can't afford to be dysfunctional like this....
I'm trying to breath deeply and yes it works well.....

Thanks guys for your support....thank you so much....love you all
M.

[Belle1979]

((((marjan))))

Just slow down all the negative thoughts xxx I'm glad you are going to see a T, it's a good idea. Mine was able to help with my panic attacks and anxiety so much so that I don't really have them much anymore - or maybe it's more that I just keep going rather than stopping and focusing on the panic - not sure but for the time being what ever I am doing works LOL

Meditation was such a big part in your life, I think that it would be a great idea if you could go back to that and perhaps Yoga too?

Take care xx

[DavePanic]

Hey Marjan,

Sorry to hear things have taken a turn for the worse, just try to keep a positive mindset no matter what you are feeling. Perhaps implementing some of the techniques available in a free anxiety mini course as supplement to whatever methods you were using previously will be able to help you, I know it helped me beyond words, hope it helps and all the best, just keep going and stay positive.

[Rhiannonsmoon]

((((Marjan))))

This is a sad turn for you Marjan, but you do have a lot of things going on and you need to be kind to yourself. You get very tough on yourself and place far too much pressure on yourself.

Please know that we are all here to support you and hold you up, help you out no matter what. Please please be kind to yourself and rest as much as you can....that anxiety is just awful and I know exactly what it is doing to you....

(((( ((((Hugs to you Marjan)))) ))))

Rhiannon

[marjan]

Thank you all for your warm words and your support.....You guys are my heart....

I'm doing a bit better....I tried the whole day yesterday to force myself to breath....tried to remember to breath....I noticed that I was holding my breath and I had to remind myself "Hey Marjan, breathe, don't forget, you got to breathe" and as I exhale I feel all my worrisome leaving my body....I slept very bad last night, the whole night I had anxiety and the anxiety creates stomachache....unbelievable.....I'm seeing a T today....hope she can help me.....I've been crying most of the time and could not concentrate at work....that's my primary focus....I need to do good at my job....I can't afford losing my job over stupid anxiety....

(((Rhiannonsmoon))) I know what you mean by me being so hard on myself....that's what I do always....trying to be perfect and if something goes the way that it shouldn't then I get all upset and anxious.....well...it was a nice break meeting Brandon, but he hasn't contacted me since Saturday and I think that's it....well...It would be nice to have somebody, but it's not worth of all the pain I guess....

(((lynn))) I did what you said about breathing, writing and even I tried the shower and washing off all my thoughts away....It made me feel better....Also, I took care of some of the works that was making me so anxious the one that I wrote on the side that I can do something about....so, less stress for me at least for that one....Also, I worked a bit more yesterday and hope I will finish that part today....

Thanks guys again....I love you all....and you guys are here to help me feel not lonely.....sometimes, I'm not sure if I'm able to carry on with my loneliness.....

Marjan

[marjan]

Originally Posted by DavePanic

Hey Marjan,

Sorry to hear things have taken a turn for the worse, just try to keep a positive mindset no matter what you are feeling. Perhaps implementing some of the techniques available in a free anxiety mini course as supplement to whatever methods you were using previously will be able to help you, I know it helped me beyond words, hope it helps and all the best, just keep going and stay positive.

thanks (((DavePanic))) I signed up for that course.....I think I really need professional help to get over my fears of loneliness and anxiety....

[ladylazarus]

((Hi Marjan))

I'm so sorry to hear that your anxiety came back after being without it for months. It makes it that much harder to deal with when you feel you where making such progress only to have it come back again. I know that must be so very frustrating. I lose my appetite too when I'm anxious. It feels like my stomach is in knots. I hope that with time and seeing your T that you will feel better.

((Hi lynn))

Originally Posted by lynn P.

When I'm in the shower and rinsing the shampoo out, I imagine all my worries going down the drain.

I learned to do stuff like that in one of my acting classes back in the day. The technique is called visualization and it is very affective in my opinion.

[satisfieddone]

I hope you get better and I hope more people can help us with this. I feel exactly the same way, and it's weird because sometimes I have the feeling that it's over nd under control, but then.. it is no.
Best,

[marjan]

thanks guys....I still have a bit of anxiety....like today I woke up with that....but I feel I'm getting better....

well...I tried to sort things out and work on my ToDo list of things that I can do something for them....

I went to the T, but honesty I didn't feel talking to her and I felt she's really out dated....stuff that she was telling me were so cliche and doesn't work for me....I felt I know better than her how to cope with my anxiety....hehehe....

I got appointment for next Monday, but most likely I will cancel it....I don't want to use the company's money for her....she's pretty expensive too....wow....around $150/h....that's too much really for just listening to people and telling them go read some books....of course I read books....

Anyway, I think breathing exercise and trying to sort things out in my life is the big help.....

Thanks again for all of your supports, you guys are rock
Marjan

[marjan]

It looks like anxiety doesn't want to leave me, when it comes to my body.....

horrible thoughts, please leave me....
anxiety, please leave me....
let me be myself.....
let me live my life.....
let me breathe....
let me live....
let me love....
let me hope....
let me eat....
let me sleep...
let me read...
let me work....
let me be....
.....

[FooZe]

Originally Posted by marjan

It looks like anxiety doesn't want to leave me...

horrible thoughts, please leave me....
anxiety, please leave me....

There's another, very different way to approach it, marjan, just in case you should feel like trying it. Alan Watts, among others, describes it. I quoted him here.

[rocklobster]

I am no professional, that is for sure. I am here to deal with my mental health issues, of which I am not embarrassed. For that, I thank my parents. They seemed ahead of the curve all through my childhood and it has helped.

My only suggestions when the anxiety is just beginning is to call a friend and see how their day is going. That is what I do. I focus on them, as a friend. I hear the good and the bad and while I am involved with my friend, my anxiety level almost always goes down.

Then, there are the times between my weekly appointments with my psychiatrist. I try a few things. One of them is called "cues." For the times when I can feel the anxiety working to take over, I call my doctor's voicemail. I am not leave a message, but, his voice is a cue to me and I begin to mellow out. And, I do the same with my partner and my close friends. It is a stop-gap measure, but it works for me.

And, if I still can't get to my doctor, I first pray to my Higher Spirit, then I call on a friend and tell them the condition I am in and that I need their help. Usually it is about 15 minutes later when there is my friend at the front door. We just let me talk it out to my friend, who never comments, but lets me get it out and then focus it back on me as if someone were coming to me with the same issue. I work through what I would suggest to them.

I realize these are not the best answers, but, I have found that I have more help than I ever realized and I will use it, I have no choice.

Just some ideas. You can always drop me a line and just let out what you are feeling.

All the best - really.

[marjan]

Originally Posted by Fool Zero

There's another, very different way to approach it, marjan, just in case you should feel like trying it. Alan Watts, among others, describes it. I quoted him here.

Thanks Fool Zero....I read the quote couple of times.....and it was brilliant....

[marjan]

Originally Posted by rocklobster

I am no professional, that is for sure. I am here to deal with my mental health issues, of which I am not embarrassed. For that, I thank my parents. They seemed ahead of the curve all through my childhood and it has helped.

My only suggestions when the anxiety is just beginning is to call a friend and see how their day is going. That is what I do. I focus on them, as a friend. I hear the good and the bad and while I am involved with my friend, my anxiety level almost always goes down.

Then, there are the times between my weekly appointments with my psychiatrist. I try a few things. One of them is called "cues." For the times when I can feel the anxiety working to take over, I call my doctor's voicemail. I am not leave a message, but, his voice is a cue to me and I begin to mellow out. And, I do the same with my partner and my close friends. It is a stop-gap measure, but it works for me.

And, if I still can't get to my doctor, I first pray to my Higher Spirit, then I call on a friend and tell them the condition I am in and that I need their help. Usually it is about 15 minutes later when there is my friend at the front door. We just let me talk it out to my friend, who never comments, but lets me get it out and then focus it back on me as if someone were coming to me with the same issue. I work through what I would suggest to them.

I realize these are not the best answers, but, I have found that I have more help than I ever realized and I will use it, I have no choice.

Just some ideas. You can always drop me a line and just let out what you are feeling.

All the best - really.

Thanks rocklobster.....I know what you mean by just letting it out of your head by telling a friend....I've done that a lot....but I don't want to go to that route with my friends....they have their own issues and they will get tired after awhile....however, PC is a good place to make virtual friends and tell them everything....that works for sure.....

I'm doing better today, probably it's because of the pill....I couldn't hold the pain more than this....yesterday, I went to the temple for my meditation class.....It was great, but that pain of anxiety was in my stomach.....even when I was doing meditation I had to place both of my hands on my stomach to hold it, because it was so intense and painful.....I could see every single nerves in my stomach was sending pain signals to my head.....but interesting point, when the teacher was teaching or when I was talking to her after the class, I forgot all about the pain....however, once teacher stopped talking, my mind was looking and wondering what has happened to the pain and then my mind was finding the pain again....
anyway, I got home and still the pain was with me......couldn't stand it....didn't want him to stock with me.....so, I took the pill that mom gave me....the doctor gave her that pill after dad has passed away......it worked well....very well.....I got relaxed, the pain has gone....my mind was/is still looking for the pain....the pain is fading now.....
I'm going to contact my doctor to get anxiety medication....I don't want to feel anxiety and pain anymore....

thanks guys for your help
Marjan

[marjan]

I took the pill today too....and it works well....I think I'm going to call my doctor tomorrow and see what he says.....

I need to balance my emotions and probably the only way now is taking pills....I couldn't stand with that pain in my stomach.....that constant anxiousness and worrisome....no that's not good....if the pill will fix it, why not.....I would take for awhile and then stop it....