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Old Jul 24, 2010, 09:13 PM
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I think so too Bobbi. You and I could be the best of friends in real life if we lived close to each other. Its nice to know you here but it would be even nicer to know you in person. I appreciate your life wisdom too.

I know what you mean about living by the golden rule yet feeling the only one some times. Perhaps that speaks to some hypersensitivity we have that others don't. Maybe we feel more or take things more personally then the average person. It has often puzzled me. Sometimes through hurt tears or angry lonliness. Either way it often makes me feel an alien in the world.

Same with the self love and respect. It seems hard to come by. It seems something life can beat out of us if we don't fight back. I am like you. I give better advice then I take into myself. It is easier to see what another should do then it is to see or do what is best for me. Martyrdom seems to come easy to me. lol.

I think being authentic is all about self love that in its turn breeds a self knowing that is expressed with a kind of self confidence. Being comfortable and content with your own company goes with it. I am good alone. In fact I think I am better alone then with people for too long at a time. Many have noted that I am 'jealous' for my time.

I like being alone. I like having time to myself, control of my own time. I think that is why I have never been very good in a relationship. I feel so crowded and controlled. I feel like I am always doing for the other and denying time to do for myself or be by myself.

My ex says that about me. He never understood my need for alone time. I never understood his need for a constant companion. Even while he was visiting the last few days when evening would roll around I would retreat to my room where I would write and watch my own tv or read or come online or work on a project or just be with my own thoughts. He would be left alone in the living room to watch tv by himself since our son was usually online playing games with his friends. My ex made a few comments about it but my days of doing for him all the time are over so I didn't change my ways and deny my need for private time just to make him happy. I figured I had been doing for him all during the day so I deserved and took my own time when I could.

I think that is where the habit of staying up later and later came from. When the rest of the house would sleep I would get to enjoy my private time. I spent most of my teenage years alone. My siblings and father had moved out when I was 14 leaving me and my mom at home. My mom was in the hospital more then she was home so I was there alone a lot. Even when she was home she would be passed out from her medications more than not. I never wanted people over and I couldn't leave her alone so I just kept busy doing my own thing. Even when she wasn't there I preferred my own company to that of friends. I was very social at school but home was my private space. I am the same now. I will often not answer the door or even the phone if I don't feel like seeing or talking with anyone.

See we have the gift of gab in common too. lol. You are easy to ramble on with. Take care.

I just wanted to say that i think that people who have always been "sheltered" for lack of a better word, and not given the freedom from their families and other influential people in their lives to be that independent person we all hope and wish for, also go through either the same or similar struggles.

I know in my own life, I never had experienced the freedom in all its entirety until just this year, actually it started in June. It wasn't always my own doing but most of it was....it was an internal struggle that I went through and had to come to the realization that I cannot possibly allow people to dictate how i live my life and that I need to be who I was created and designed to be in this life. I also realized I need to be alone to realize alot of truths about my life and who i am. I cannot even begin to explain it all right now, it is so deep and full of so many emotions and details that I have no proper words for it right now. I do hope that one day I will be able to write my own autobiography and record my own music (singing and guitar). I want to give back to those who helped me get to where i am today and also show the world that there is hope for tomorrow.

I leave you with that and this quote I have from Mother Teresa.

"The hunger for love is much more difficult to remove than the hunger for bread."
Mother Teresa
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Old Jul 24, 2010, 09:15 PM
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Hello, Bobbi. I offer these articles as confirmation of what I expect you already know:

http://www.unfetteredmind.com/articles/helplessness.php
http://psychcentral.com/blog/archive...overcome-them/
http://blogs.psychcentral.com/always...gs-of-control/;
http://www.wikihow.com/Recognize-a-M...g-Relationship
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Positi...g.-a0160872992
http://ginabaksa.com/ways-to-overcom...-helplessness/
http://blogs.psychcentral.com/anxiet...r-or-a-victim/

You know your relationship with your husband is not a healthy one. On a prior occasion there was a discussion about formulating a plan to safely get out of the relationship. I believe you intended to call the National Domestic Hotline for assistance: http://www.ndvh.org/

Safety Planning: http://www.ndvh.org/get-help/safety-planning/

Whatever you choose to do, you will have my support.

Be safe.
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Old Jul 24, 2010, 11:14 PM
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Ty byz
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Old Jul 25, 2010, 05:39 AM
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Lots of support here, Welcome to Pc
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Old Jul 30, 2010, 10:24 PM
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Lorna, hope you don't mind, but I copied your adorable picture. It is sooooooooooocute
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Old Jul 31, 2010, 12:11 PM
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Hello bobbi416 and to PC. I'm glad you joined our community. You have come to a great place. I hope you find PC helpful and supportive.
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Old Aug 02, 2010, 11:34 PM
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Well his vacation is over and he's back to work. I really believe that my unhappiy marriage is a big part of my depression. I felt great for a few days after my trip, but it's back to the same, old same old.

I'm sure my past has alot to do with it, but my so called relationship only compounds my depression and anger issues. Everytime that I have lost control I ended up being hospitalized. AND I DEFFINATELY DON'T want to go to that dark and frightening place.

My H deffinately has issues but refuses to even consider the possibility that he could be the problem. It's all my fault, and he is never wrong, never appologizes for anything, and is very controlling but in a very sneaky way. He expect everything to be done for him.

I use to jump, when ever he wanted something. But not anymore! I stopped cooking full course meals for him to take to work for lunch. In fact I barely cook at all anymore. I use to love to cook, and not bad at either, but his demanding has taken the joy out of it.

My depression has gotten so bad that I stopped doing anything at all for him, you think he would get the hint that something is wrong. He actually said out of blue one night, "I don't think your depressed, depressed people don't laugh!", we were watching Funniest Home Videos. If it weren't for my pets I wouldn't even get out of bed. There must be an inch of dust around the house. I'm just so overwhelmed by everything that I just sit on the couch watching TV or on my computer.

My home use to be very neat and tidy, everything in it's place. Now it looks like ......****. Because he's a slob on top of everything else.
I put off doing anything, until I no choice. Does any of this make any sense, I feel like I'm just rambling. I feel like, why bother nothing is appreciated anyway. I'm the woman of the house and it is expected of me. Well I just can't do it anymore!
I'm so tired of picking up after him like he was a 2 yr. old, he never says thank you for anything, and makes sure i know that he did something, like clean up the bathroom sink. Or wash the floor, like it was a favor or something. He uses everything as much or more than I do he should clean up after himself.

Well enough of my complaining, going to bed it's 1 am again.
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May you have enough happiness to make you sweet, enought trials to make you strong, enough sarrow to keep you human, and enough hope to make you happy.

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Old Aug 03, 2010, 08:32 AM
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You know, you said you felt rage. And I think you were actually justified in feeling angry, but you suppressed it as though it was wrong to feel angry. *shakes head* you were completely justified.

I get the feeling you might not know what a healthy relationship feels like and that's why you put up with this behavior.

It's toxic. You deserve better.

*hug and luffz*

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Old Aug 03, 2010, 09:00 AM
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OH and another thing has occured to me. When you were going to therapy and your husband was complaining that you were "changing" and that it cost too much.

He was trying to get you not to go because he was afraid he'd lose control of you and wouldnt be able to manipulate/abuse you anymore.

That's all that was.

He was upset that his little world in which he takes advantage of you would come crumbling down and he couldnt stand the thought of you actually standing up to him, looking him square in the eye and saying "I'm not taking your **** anymore!" (which really is what should happen)

You really are too good for all of this crap he makes you put up with.
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Old Aug 03, 2010, 10:22 AM
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OH and another thing has occured to me. When you were going to therapy and your husband was complaining that you were "changing" and that it cost too much.

He was trying to get you not to go because he was afraid he'd lose control of you and wouldnt be able to manipulate/abuse you anymore.

That's all that was.

He was upset that his little world in which he takes advantage of you would come crumbling down and he couldnt stand the thought of you actually standing up to him, looking him square in the eye and saying "I'm not taking your **** anymore!" (which really is what should happen)

You really are too good for all of this crap he makes you put up with.
TY Sophia,

I know you are right. But I keep back sliding, you know one step forward 2 steps back! I just need to get away from him for good. I'm just afraid that I won't be strong enough to do it on my own. I have been married since the age of 19, and this is my third time around. But now I am 52 years old and have been through so much that I just don't know how to live on my own.

I do sit and imagine what it would be like, hmm. It would be nice to not have to worry! My stomach is in such a knot, that it pains me. My anxiety is so much so that it actually put me in the hospital for 2 days, thought I was having a heart attack!

I'm so isolated, that I have no one to really talk to except my mother-in-law, and even though she adores me, I can't lay these things on her. She just turned 70, and it would probably do more harm than good anyway.

So, I put up with this because.... lets face it I'm just plan scarred. I fight with myself constantly. I find myself litterally walking in circles. Then I yell at myself.."what in hell are you doing, get it together".

He does these little things to let me know what he wants done without speaking to me. We never really talk unless it's about his job!! Things like putting the vacume cleaner in front of the bed so I will walk into it. Meaning I should run the vacume. Or putting the clothes hamper on the landing, meaning do my wash. Or leaving the toilet seat up, meaning clean the bathroom. Or he'll leave little notes taped to the coffe pot.

I really need to stop complaining and do something about this. I know that I am the only one that can help myself, but when I start to think about what needs to be done in order to get out, it just overwhelms me so I don't do anything...Sorry for rambling on and on. Just need to get this out.

Thanks for listening/reading!
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Old Aug 13, 2010, 04:31 PM
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Well I have been away from home for a week now and have had a great time. Talking and sharing with my best friend and sister. I've been helping her settle in to her new home. Brave girl, she just up and left her hubby of 25 yrs. Just packed up and walked out.

I really wish I could do that!!! But she has asked me to stay with her for a while til she can get a bit more secure in her feelings. We were both in simular situations.

So I may be away a bit longer. I'll keep posting. TTYS
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May you have enough happiness to make you sweet, enought trials to make you strong, enough sarrow to keep you human, and enough hope to make you happy.
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Old Aug 13, 2010, 06:07 PM
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Hi Bobbi, nice to find an update post from you. I am glad you are having a good visit with your sister. I hope you are able to get from the time what you need. Take good care.
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