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Old Sep 23, 2017, 07:58 PM
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I thought BBQ sauce was THAT thing.

But, now it sounds like it's THIS OTHER thing

Art: I'm hopefully correctly decoding Una-ese (always a tricky business) -- either Natalie Portman's thigh or the other actress' thigh in the film, Black Swan (which umm........I didn't actually watch or watch in full [can't remember]).
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Old Sep 23, 2017, 08:00 PM
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(((Daisy))) Its kinda very stream of consciousness, everybody bouncing offa everybody else. Its pretty cool i think. We dont always reach this. Apparently im not the only one who got bbq sauce tonight!


I love you. You're great. I'm being serious when I say those things, but I'm so confused.
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Old Sep 23, 2017, 08:09 PM
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Whose thigh? What'd miss?
The thigh covered with bbq sauce.
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Old Sep 23, 2017, 08:12 PM
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I had a harrowing encounter with a carfull of ferocious Polynesian warriors. Actually, only one spoke to me but I wasn't in the mood and walked on. He shouted after me, "Don't you speak English?"

I suppose he was only trying to be friendly but in my culture we don't shout at strangers from car windows. Scary.
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Old Sep 23, 2017, 08:13 PM
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The thigh covered with bbq sauce.
But, washable (warm, no bleach), I hope.
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Old Sep 23, 2017, 08:18 PM
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But, washable (warm, no bleach), I hope.
I think licking might be the best option under such circumstances.
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Old Sep 23, 2017, 08:49 PM
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I actually had a good day off (maybe b/c I slept in 'till noon so it was a really short day off)... but now the darkness is gathering and I'm scared
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Old Sep 23, 2017, 08:52 PM
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The thigh covered with bbq sauce.
Oh! That thigh.
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Old Sep 23, 2017, 08:57 PM
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I've been told I have to be out of my house for the entire month of October while they do cleaning and repainting and repairing my floor. I am not at all happy about this. First, I'm not in a good place mentally right now. I only leave my house to go to work, go to therapy, or buy groceries. When I'm at home I spend all of my time in our guest room. I even sleep on the couch in there. I had moved in here months ago as my husband's behavior was escalating. It's about the only place that gives me any comfort right now. The thought of losing my safe space for an entire month is completely overwhelming. I'm not entirely sure I can leave and not have a complete breakdown vs the partial one I'm already having. Second, how am I supposed to figure out what I need and pack for a whole month? I only have a small suitcase and a couple of duffel bags. I have no idea where I'm supposed to go. I haven't called the insurance company yet to see what they'll pay for. They're coming the 2nd to start packing my belongings so I have to figure this out by then.

Basically, October is going to suck for me. In addition to the above, I need to go file for a restraining order, my therapist is taking a week off, and my husband has a court date to either make a plea deal or go to trial. I have no clue where that is headed because no one tells me anything. I'm not allowed to speak to him and I've had no communication from the DA or his defense lawyer.

I also have a friend who wants to come to my city to visit for a weekend in October with his boyfriend and their female friend. I am totally not up for playing drinking buddy/tour guide with these people. I know that if they come they'll want to get the whole story on what happened with my husband and I don't really want to tell the story right now. It's still too raw. It feels like they just want to come watch the train wreck that is my life. He's been asking to come for a visit since shortly after the fire and I keep telling him I'm not up for company. Maybe I should just say "I'm suicidal and I have a plan. I spend hours crying on a regular basis. I cannot deal with company right now." But I have no desire to get that real with anyone other than my therapist right now. And apparently strangers on the internet. I know he thinks he's trying to be supportive, but it's just stressing me out more than I already am.

I have no idea how I'm going to get through October. Sorry about the long post. I needed to vent.
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Old Sep 23, 2017, 09:10 PM
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informal couch poll: if you said "i love you" to your t and they responded "I know", would that bother you? i know there are couchies who would never utter such a thing to a t, but for those that would....?

This was even a dream "I love you" - not a literal one. I had just read from my notebook that in the dream I had telepathically sent that to her. And she says "I know" in response to a dream "I love you".

Maybe I'm completely off base, but it felt very dismissive. Or it's just cuz it was part of a dream and I wasn't wanting any response at all other than to work with the dream as a whole.

I dunno.

Just curious.

eta: when i've said that to her in the past not as part of a dream, she's responded 'thank you' or 'i'm touched' or even just 'awww' by itself and those were all fine. but this bugs me.
This is my script with my T. I say I love you and she says I know... (and no, I am not a star wars fan and yes, I created the script) for me it serves a couple purposes. First, it helps me believe/know that she carries my feelings towards her outside of the room, she knows I love her even when we are not together.

Second, the consistency in the response provides comfort in knowing that I will always get the same response, it won't be something that might bother me. The 'I know' doesn't bother me as much as some other responses - Thank you isn't bad. I like 'I know' better. Once she said something else and that bothered me, I don't remember at this time what it was, though.

Finally, we have talked at different times about the internalization of T and interactions with my parts. There is a feeling that sometimes this I love you is actually inwardly directed; the child part to the adult part and the child part doesn't feel believed or hasn't felt believed or heard in the past; so the script is to let the child part know that it is being heard first by T. Once that has occurred, the adult part can mirror T's behavior and be able to provide the sense of being heard to the child part. Some of that conditioning that you are reading about.

I will also say I miss you, and she says I know to that too.... in fact the full script is...

me: I love you
t: I know
me: I miss you (or I will miss you)
t: I know
me: I want you
t: I'm here

sometimes t will add something like, thank you for being you, all of you are welcome here, ect.
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Old Sep 23, 2017, 09:15 PM
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Old Sep 23, 2017, 09:20 PM
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I feel so disconnected from everything right now. Numb. I'm enjoying reading the couch since I've been awake, but am having trouble finding a way to contribute. Like I'm here observing everything, but I'm also very not here. Does this make sense to anyone? Don't feel like you have to reply. It's a part rhetorical question and part not.

I hope everyone is doing okay.
Yes Daisy, I've been there a few times after particular sessions. What does it feel like if you were to describe it? Sometimes for me it feels like I am inside one of those body bubbles:

Couch 153: Couch slouch

and everything is muffled, I can still hear stuff/read stuff but it doesn't completely compute.
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Old Sep 23, 2017, 10:14 PM
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Ahh yes, I also know the numbness well. I like the body bubble analogy/metaphor (can someone PLEASE explain the difference), Elio.
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Old Sep 23, 2017, 10:22 PM
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F*** THIS

I am trying to stay positive and productive. I really am.
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Old Sep 23, 2017, 10:29 PM
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Ahh yes, I also know the numbness well. I like the body bubble analogy/metaphor (can someone PLEASE explain the difference), Elio.
In my understanding-- the analogy is the entire comparison, and an analogy can be made by employing a metaphor, which is a specific figure of speech-- like, a ladder being a symbol for upward mobility would be the metaphor, with the entire phrase/story in which this takes place being the analogy.

Maybe?

And at least in my classes we learned that metaphors are always presented as a direct swap (no "like") -- for example "all the world's a stage" is a metaphor, but if the quote were "the world is like a stage," that would be a simile.
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Old Sep 23, 2017, 10:45 PM
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I'm having headache in my temple and eyebrow for the last ~12 hours. Should I start worrying? I have never had a migraine
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Old Sep 23, 2017, 10:47 PM
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I'm having headache in my temple and eyebrow for the last ~12 hours. Should I start worrying? I have never had a migraine
Do you think it is a side effect of stopping meds? Concerned for you--
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Old Sep 23, 2017, 10:48 PM
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An analogy is when you're comparing two things. A metaphor is a type of figurative language where you're applying an abstract idea or concept to an object. A simile is the same thing as a metaphor except it uses the words "like" or "as" when applying the abstraction to an object.

So the body bubble would be an analogy. The type of dissociation I feel is like being inside of a body bubble. They are two similar types of experiences. I'm having trouble coming up with a good metaphor, probably because I feel like I'm inside a body bubble.
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Old Sep 23, 2017, 10:49 PM
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Do you think it is a side effect of stopping meds? Concerned for you--
I don't think so...I stopped them two weeks ago.
But I'm recovering from a cold...Maybe that's it
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Old Sep 23, 2017, 10:51 PM
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Capt that sounds more like a tension headache more so than a migraine. Which makes perfect sense given what you're going through. I hope you feel better, in both mind and body.
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Old Sep 23, 2017, 10:58 PM
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An analogy is when you're comparing two things. A metaphor is a type of figurative language where you're applying an abstract idea or concept to an object. A simile is the same thing as a metaphor except it uses the words "like" or "as" when applying the abstraction to an object.

So the body bubble would be an analogy. The type of dissociation I feel is like being inside of a body bubble. They are two similar types of experiences. I'm having trouble coming up with a good metaphor, probably because I feel like I'm inside a body bubble.
Ohhh...that somewhat makes it clearer.

I told my T that when she brought up exploring the topic of dating with me, it felt like I am 10 feet underground, broken and bleeding, and she is like 'Hey! Get up, let's go find a rainbow!..is that a metaphor?
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Old Sep 23, 2017, 10:58 PM
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Capt that sounds more like a tension headache more so than a migraine. Which makes perfect sense given what you're going through. I hope you feel better, in both mind and body.
But 12+ hours...and meds are not working. And I had flashes in my eyes.
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Old Sep 23, 2017, 11:05 PM
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I love you. You're great. I'm being serious when I say those things, but I'm so confused.
I was being serious too. I was in a good place because of bbq sauce two days in a row. Actual bbq sauce. A fellow ww had a post meme to the effect of, eat like you are someone who is loved. That kinda blew my mind. I have so much guilt over eating. Like how woody allen said, as long as there is one unhappy person in the world, i am miserable. They call depression the black dog? I told t last week, the white dog is not much better.

And yes, the star's thigh. I forgot her name!

Eta - the heat and humidity is making me delirious! I have ac and fans, but still its all around us, it permeates.
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Old Sep 23, 2017, 11:12 PM
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I thought BBQ sauce was THAT thing.

But, now it sounds like it's THIS OTHER thing

Art: I'm hopefully correctly decoding Una-ese (always a tricky business) -- either Natalie Portman's thigh or the other actress' thigh in the film, Black Swan (which umm........I didn't actually watch or watch in full [can't remember]).
You apparently did not see the thigh scene. Its not nasty or revealing or anything - its just this perfect angle of her left outer thigh.
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Old Sep 24, 2017, 06:26 AM
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I think T gave up on me
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