Home Menu

Menu


Reply
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #851  
Old Jan 20, 2023, 10:14 AM
ScarletPimpernel's Avatar
ScarletPimpernel ScarletPimpernel is offline
Wise Elder
 
Member Since: Nov 2013
Location: US
Posts: 9,006
Thanks LT!

Those are definitely things to thinks about and discuss with her. She did put the crystal I gave her in the window. It's supposed to remove bad energy and bring in good energy.

I'm sorry that you feel like your love is poison. I can understand why you feel that way.
__________________
"Odium became your opium..." ~Epica
Hugs from:
LonesomeTonight
Thanks for this!
LonesomeTonight

advertisement
  #852  
Old Jan 20, 2023, 11:01 AM
Anonymous41549
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
I often feel poisoned by other people's love for me (some poor fools do love me!). I suppose this is the flip side of the same coin which you are both describing.
Hugs from:
LonesomeTonight, ScarletPimpernel, SlumberKitty, unaluna, WarmFuzzySocks
  #853  
Old Jan 20, 2023, 11:22 AM
LonesomeTonight's Avatar
LonesomeTonight LonesomeTonight is offline
Always in This Twilight
 
Member Since: Feb 2015
Location: US
Posts: 22,004
Quote:
Originally Posted by ScarletPimpernel View Post
Thanks LT!

Those are definitely things to thinks about and discuss with her. She did put the crystal I gave her in the window. It's supposed to remove bad energy and bring in good energy.

I'm sorry that you feel like your love is poison. I can understand why you feel that way.

Thanks, Scarlet.

And I remembered the crystal in the window you'd mentioned, which is part of what made me think of something cleansing/energy-related.
Thanks for this!
ScarletPimpernel
  #854  
Old Jan 20, 2023, 12:52 PM
ArtieTheSequal's Avatar
ArtieTheSequal ArtieTheSequal is offline
Starting a new chapter!
 
Member Since: Feb 2020
Location: In the desert of my soul
Posts: 7,728
Quote:
Originally Posted by ElectricManatee View Post
Artie, if you want my opinion (which you 100% did not ask for!) I think the most effective thing you could do is find a way to work on your relationship with yourself first: your emotions, your reactions to your emotions, your values and desires, etc. Once you've made some progress there, I think you'll be much more equipped to confidently handle your career and your marriage and whatever else is making you feel restless and unhappy right now. I'm a therapy believer so I would suggest an experienced trauma therapist (one who understands relational trauma specifically), but I'm sure there are other paths. It could also help you make sense of/find peace with your relationship with L too.
Thanks so much for those thoughts, EM. What you said really resonates, and I appreciate it a lot.

ETA It's interesting - relational trauma - I just read this "Relational trauma can impact our sense of self and our sense of self-worth. If we have inconsistent attachment figures, we may start to internalize the sense of being “not good enough” to have our needs met."

My entire life I have felt that I am "not good enough". And it also makes sense why I kept seeing L for more than 10 years - because of that whole intermittent reinforcement thing where so much of the time I felt 'good enough' within that relationship except for when I didn't and would try to leave, so I had to keep going back every time I had tried to stop, to get that good enough feeling back again, to use her once again as the "good mother" thing.

Back to feeling thankful that she said the things she said that hurt me so much in November of 2021 that ultimately allowed me to stop seeing her and to stay away for over a year now, and to really begin to see it as the toxic situation that relationship had become for me. It's strange because she also helped me in a lot of ways... until she didn't... and it also makes sense why I still love her.

Last edited by ArtieTheSequal; Jan 20, 2023 at 02:55 PM.
Hugs from:
ElectricManatee, LonesomeTonight, unaluna
  #855  
Old Jan 20, 2023, 01:46 PM
RTerroni's Avatar
RTerroni RTerroni is offline
Elder
 
Member Since: Sep 2013
Location: USA
Posts: 5,751
At the annual Motorsports show that I have gone to every year since 2010 (except 2021 when it was canceled due to COVID).
__________________
COVID-19 Survivor- 4/26/2022
Thanks for this!
LonesomeTonight
  #856  
Old Jan 20, 2023, 02:27 PM
ArtieTheSequal's Avatar
ArtieTheSequal ArtieTheSequal is offline
Starting a new chapter!
 
Member Since: Feb 2020
Location: In the desert of my soul
Posts: 7,728
I hope you enjoy it, RTerroni!
Thanks for this!
RTerroni
  #857  
Old Jan 20, 2023, 05:14 PM
ScarletPimpernel's Avatar
ScarletPimpernel ScarletPimpernel is offline
Wise Elder
 
Member Since: Nov 2013
Location: US
Posts: 9,006
Session with L went well. I'm having an "omg I can't believe I said those things" moment. It actually feels good talking, confessing, having someone still accept me. AND I'm still afraid of hurting L. She reassures me that none of this bothers her, that it will not "stick" in her mind. It's hard to believe. I think because it has done so much damage to my mind, and I don't want the same for her. However, I am making progress. I'm tempted to write up on paper the details in my mind, and give it to her on Tuesday. Just get it out there, dive into the deep end and see if we can still swim. It's haunting me for a reason, and if it really doesn't bother L, then might as well take advantage of my courage.
__________________
"Odium became your opium..." ~Epica
Hugs from:
ArtieTheSequal, LonesomeTonight, SlumberKitty
  #858  
Old Jan 20, 2023, 05:37 PM
LonesomeTonight's Avatar
LonesomeTonight LonesomeTonight is offline
Always in This Twilight
 
Member Since: Feb 2015
Location: US
Posts: 22,004
Quote:
Originally Posted by ScarletPimpernel View Post
Session with L went well. I'm having an "omg I can't believe I said those things" moment. It actually feels good talking, confessing, having someone still accept me. AND I'm still afraid of hurting L. She reassures me that none of this bothers her, that it will not "stick" in her mind. It's hard to believe. I think because it has done so much damage to my mind, and I don't want the same for her. However, I am making progress. I'm tempted to write up on paper the details in my mind, and give it to her on Tuesday. Just get it out there, dive into the deep end and see if we can still swim. It's haunting me for a reason, and if it really doesn't bother L, then might as well take advantage of my courage.

I'm glad your session went well, Scarlet. Writing it up and sharing it seem like a good idea.
Hugs from:
SlumberKitty
Thanks for this!
ScarletPimpernel
  #859  
Old Jan 20, 2023, 07:39 PM
ArtieTheSequal's Avatar
ArtieTheSequal ArtieTheSequal is offline
Starting a new chapter!
 
Member Since: Feb 2020
Location: In the desert of my soul
Posts: 7,728
Quote:
Originally Posted by ScarletPimpernel View Post
Session with L went well. I'm having an "omg I can't believe I said those things" moment. It actually feels good talking, confessing, having someone still accept me. AND I'm still afraid of hurting L. She reassures me that none of this bothers her, that it will not "stick" in her mind. It's hard to believe. I think because it has done so much damage to my mind, and I don't want the same for her. However, I am making progress. I'm tempted to write up on paper the details in my mind, and give it to her on Tuesday. Just get it out there, dive into the deep end and see if we can still swim. It's haunting me for a reason, and if it really doesn't bother L, then might as well take advantage of my courage.
I'm glad it went well, Scarlet and I think doing the writing is a good idea.
Hugs from:
SlumberKitty
Thanks for this!
ScarletPimpernel
  #860  
Old Jan 20, 2023, 09:21 PM
ScarletPimpernel's Avatar
ScarletPimpernel ScarletPimpernel is offline
Wise Elder
 
Member Since: Nov 2013
Location: US
Posts: 9,006
Thanks LT and Artie! Thanks for the encouragement. I'll definitely write it out and then see how I feel come Tuesday.
__________________
"Odium became your opium..." ~Epica
Hugs from:
ArtieTheSequal, LonesomeTonight, SlumberKitty
  #861  
Old Jan 20, 2023, 11:44 PM
NP_Complete's Avatar
NP_Complete NP_Complete is offline
Grand Magnate
 
Member Since: Feb 2017
Location: the upside down
Posts: 3,963
I tested negative for covid, but I've got a fever of 102.7, sore throat, cough, headache so I guess it's the flu. Had no fever or headache this morning. Feeling kind of miserable.
Hugs from:
ArtieTheSequal, ElectricManatee, LonesomeTonight, Polibeth, ScarletPimpernel, SlumberKitty, unaluna, WarmFuzzySocks
  #862  
Old Jan 21, 2023, 02:14 AM
LonesomeTonight's Avatar
LonesomeTonight LonesomeTonight is offline
Always in This Twilight
 
Member Since: Feb 2015
Location: US
Posts: 22,004
Quote:
Originally Posted by NP_Complete View Post
I tested negative for covid, but I've got a fever of 102.7, sore throat, cough, headache so I guess it's the flu. Had no fever or headache this morning. Feeling kind of miserable.

Ugh, I'm sorry. I hope you feel better soon! Was it a home test or PCR? And when were you exposed? In August, it took my H a few days after symptoms started to test positive on a home test, though he never had a fever. So if it was a home test, I'd recommend testing again in a day or so to be safe (mainly because you had a possible exposure). If still negative, then like you said, I imagine it's the flu. If it was a PCR test, I'd just trust that.

Have you heard whether your T is feeling better?
Hugs from:
SlumberKitty
  #863  
Old Jan 21, 2023, 03:52 AM
ElectricManatee's Avatar
ElectricManatee ElectricManatee is offline
Magnate
 
Member Since: May 2017
Location: Earth
Posts: 2,515
Quote:
Originally Posted by ArtieTheSequal View Post
Thanks so much for those thoughts, EM. What you said really resonates, and I appreciate it a lot.

ETA It's interesting - relational trauma - I just read this "Relational trauma can impact our sense of self and our sense of self-worth. If we have inconsistent attachment figures, we may start to internalize the sense of being “not good enough” to have our needs met."

My entire life I have felt that I am "not good enough". And it also makes sense why I kept seeing L for more than 10 years - because of that whole intermittent reinforcement thing where so much of the time I felt 'good enough' within that relationship except for when I didn't and would try to leave, so I had to keep going back every time I had tried to stop, to get that good enough feeling back again, to use her once again as the "good mother" thing.

Back to feeling thankful that she said the things she said that hurt me so much in November of 2021 that ultimately allowed me to stop seeing her and to stay away for over a year now, and to really begin to see it as the toxic situation that relationship had become for me. It's strange because she also helped me in a lot of ways... until she didn't... and it also makes sense why I still love her.
Yeah, I didn't even realize relational trauma was part of my history except that I happened to be seeing a trauma therapist who slowly helped me unfold some things that I had always thought were fine but were in fact deeply affecting my sense of self. (Some of this stuff literally started before I had language, so it was in the same category as "gravity pulls things down" in terms of how I viewed myself and the world.) You deserve to feel "good enough," and I do think it's possible with the right guidance.
Hugs from:
ArtieTheSequal, LonesomeTonight, SlumberKitty
Thanks for this!
ArtieTheSequal, LonesomeTonight
  #864  
Old Jan 21, 2023, 11:32 AM
NP_Complete's Avatar
NP_Complete NP_Complete is offline
Grand Magnate
 
Member Since: Feb 2017
Location: the upside down
Posts: 3,963
Quote:
Originally Posted by LonesomeTonight View Post
Ugh, I'm sorry. I hope you feel better soon! Was it a home test or PCR? And when were you exposed? In August, it took my H a few days after symptoms started to test positive on a home test, though he never had a fever. So if it was a home test, I'd recommend testing again in a day or so to be safe (mainly because you had a possible exposure). If still negative, then like you said, I imagine it's the flu. If it was a PCR test, I'd just trust that.

.
Have you heard whether your T is feeling better?
I don't know the type of test, but it was at a doctor's office. He seems to be feeling better. We've been emailing and he was feeling good enough to do a video session yesterday. Wish I could say we ended on a positive note, but I'm now feeling like I should reduce our weekly sessions after I mentioned feeling like things had been inconsistent lately. I knew I should have kept that thought to myself. Dumb me.
Hugs from:
ArtieTheSequal, LonesomeTonight, SlumberKitty
  #865  
Old Jan 21, 2023, 12:18 PM
LonesomeTonight's Avatar
LonesomeTonight LonesomeTonight is offline
Always in This Twilight
 
Member Since: Feb 2015
Location: US
Posts: 22,004
Quote:
Originally Posted by NP_Complete View Post
I don't know the type of test, but it was at a doctor's office. He seems to be feeling better. We've been emailing and he was feeling good enough to do a video session yesterday. Wish I could say we ended on a positive note, but I'm now feeling like I should reduce our weekly sessions after I mentioned feeling like things had been inconsistent lately. I knew I should have kept that thought to myself. Dumb me.

Might have been a PCR test if at a doctor's then, Are you feeling any better physically?

How did he react when you mentioned the inconsistent part? I'm sorry you're feeling dumb about that. I certainly know how it goes wishing one had kept thoughts to themselves instead of sharing with one's therapist! Hugs, if wanted.
Hugs from:
SlumberKitty
  #866  
Old Jan 21, 2023, 12:30 PM
NP_Complete's Avatar
NP_Complete NP_Complete is offline
Grand Magnate
 
Member Since: Feb 2017
Location: the upside down
Posts: 3,963
Quote:
Originally Posted by LonesomeTonight View Post
Might have been a PCR test if at a doctor's then, Are you feeling any better physically?

How did he react when you mentioned the inconsistent part? I'm sorry you're feeling dumb about that. I certainly know how it goes wishing one had kept thoughts to themselves instead of sharing with one's therapist! Hugs, if wanted.
No, but my fever isn't quite as high today, like 101.5.

Well, he apologized for getting defensive and said it was because he worries about doing enough. Which made me feel like crap. I think I should just start back with the Prozac and start cutting back on sessions.
Hugs from:
ArtieTheSequal, atisketatasket, LonesomeTonight, ScarletPimpernel, SlumberKitty, WarmFuzzySocks
  #867  
Old Jan 21, 2023, 04:34 PM
ArtieTheSequal's Avatar
ArtieTheSequal ArtieTheSequal is offline
Starting a new chapter!
 
Member Since: Feb 2020
Location: In the desert of my soul
Posts: 7,728
I hope you're starting to feel better NP, glad your fever is down a little today.
Hugs from:
SlumberKitty
  #868  
Old Jan 22, 2023, 07:44 AM
ChickenNoodleSoup ChickenNoodleSoup is offline
Grand Poohbah
 
Member Since: Apr 2017
Location: In a land far far away
Posts: 1,661
Did I mess up some settings or does everyone now see the profile picture of the original poster? Kind of hard to read through topics like this...
Hugs from:
SlumberKitty
Thanks for this!
LonesomeTonight
  #869  
Old Jan 22, 2023, 09:48 AM
LonesomeTonight's Avatar
LonesomeTonight LonesomeTonight is offline
Always in This Twilight
 
Member Since: Feb 2015
Location: US
Posts: 22,004
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChickenNoodleSoup View Post
Did I mess up some settings or does everyone now see the profile picture of the original poster? Kind of hard to read through topics like this...

Yeah, mine looks like that, too--it's annoying!
Hugs from:
SlumberKitty
  #870  
Old Jan 22, 2023, 10:08 AM
atisketatasket's Avatar
atisketatasket atisketatasket is offline
Child of a lesser god
 
Member Since: Jun 2015
Location: Tartarus
Posts: 19,387
Yup, me too. So on the forum index page for this thread we’re looking at una’s phallic tower. Freudians everywhere rejoice!
Thanks for this!
LonesomeTonight, unaluna
  #871  
Old Jan 22, 2023, 10:28 AM
LostOnTheTrail's Avatar
LostOnTheTrail LostOnTheTrail is online now
Human Feeling
 
Member Since: Aug 2011
Location: England
Posts: 5,766
Could be a device specific thing. I'm not experiencing that on my laptop.
__________________
'Somewhere up above the great divide
Where the sky is wide, and the clouds are few
A man can see his way clear to the light
Just hold on tight, that's all you gotta do...'

Steve Earle - Fort Worth Blues

'You have all the grace you need for today, and today is all that matters.' - Steve Austin
  #872  
Old Jan 22, 2023, 10:37 AM
ArtieTheSequal's Avatar
ArtieTheSequal ArtieTheSequal is offline
Starting a new chapter!
 
Member Since: Feb 2020
Location: In the desert of my soul
Posts: 7,728
Quote:
Originally Posted by LostOnTheTrail View Post
Could be a device specific thing. I'm not experiencing that on my laptop.
I'm not either, on my laptop.
  #873  
Old Jan 22, 2023, 10:44 AM
unaluna's Avatar
unaluna unaluna is online now
Elder Harridan x-hankster
 
Member Since: Jun 2011
Location: Milan/Michigan
Posts: 42,044
Tweaks to default theme

Ya mean this?

What "profile page" are y'all talking about? Everything loojs the same to me, on my phone.
Thanks for this!
atisketatasket
  #874  
Old Jan 22, 2023, 10:49 AM
atisketatasket's Avatar
atisketatasket atisketatasket is offline
Child of a lesser god
 
Member Since: Jun 2015
Location: Tartarus
Posts: 19,387
Quote:
Originally Posted by unaluna View Post
Tweaks to default theme

Ya mean this?

What "profile page" are y'all talking about? Everything loojs the same to me, on my phone.
Yup. Your tower’s a bit shrunken, though…

See attached.

Those who don’t see it must not be on the default theme.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 9A303AC7-5044-44BF-BD29-D39C0CA45DFB.jpg (228.7 KB, 15 views)
Thanks for this!
LostOnTheTrail
  #875  
Old Jan 22, 2023, 10:56 AM
ArtieTheSequal's Avatar
ArtieTheSequal ArtieTheSequal is offline
Starting a new chapter!
 
Member Since: Feb 2020
Location: In the desert of my soul
Posts: 7,728
ah yes. that must be it, i don't like the default theme i use the Desert Sand one.
Reply
Views: 51458

attentionThis is an old thread. You probably should not post your reply to it, as the original poster is unlikely to see it.




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:31 PM.
Powered by vBulletin® — Copyright © 2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.




 

My Support Forums

My Support Forums is the online community that was originally begun as the Psych Central Forums in 2001. It now runs as an independent self-help support group community for mental health, personality, and psychological issues and is overseen by a group of dedicated, caring volunteers from around the world.

 

Helplines and Lifelines

The material on this site is for informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis or treatment provided by a qualified health care provider.

Always consult your doctor or mental health professional before trying anything you read here.