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Old Jan 06, 2023, 05:15 PM
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I don't think I would like the analogy of a demilitarized zone. I'm glad though that it feels okay with Dr. T right now. HUG Kit

Thanks, Kit. Yeah, it does bother me some. I think I still need to fully process what we talked about today. And of course it was on a Friday. Though at least it wasn't next Friday, before he's away for a week. I'll be careful about what I discuss then (also because it will be Friday the 13th!).
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Old Jan 06, 2023, 05:18 PM
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Old Jan 06, 2023, 05:27 PM
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Comrade, i sensed long ago that we were twins.
Possible trigger:
The truth is whatever wool she can pull over my eyes.

They should make baby cards that say, "congratulations on the arrival of your little scapegoat."
Yes, the facilitating is unfathomable - still, after all these years, I can't process it. And I absolutely relate to the "whatever wool" - anything which bolsters her at the cost of others. I am sorry you know this stuff too.

Twins! Like Tweedledum and Tweedledee! Better looking of course, but probably similar dress sense.
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Old Jan 06, 2023, 08:57 PM
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I have made the unfortunate sartorial choice of overalls and a striped tshirt. So, singular Tweedle?
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Old Jan 06, 2023, 09:18 PM
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Well blow me down, h actually pulled up his big boy pants and we ended up having a really nice visit with son and his gf. We even went out to dinner with them, just got home. I'm just so absolutely proud of him!! He's grown into such a good man. I was proud of myself for not crying when we said goodbye.
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Old Jan 06, 2023, 09:30 PM
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Well blow me down, h actually pulled up his big boy pants and we ended up having a really nice visit with son and his gf. We even went out to dinner with them, just got home. I'm just so absolutely proud of him!! He's grown into such a good man. I was proud of myself for not crying when we said goodbye.

I'm so glad you had a nice visit, Artie! And it would have been OK to cry.
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Old Jan 07, 2023, 12:50 AM
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Well blow me down, h actually pulled up his big boy pants and we ended up having a really nice visit with son and his gf. We even went out to dinner with them, just got home. I'm just so absolutely proud of him!! He's grown into such a good man. I was proud of myself for not crying when we said goodbye.
Do you ever tell him these things? When you're proud of him? That you think he's a good man?

I have found that praising my H when he does good goes further then nagging him when he acts up. They need that praising and uplifting as much as we do. Everyone does. And sometimes we forget to say it. I know I've been trying to show my appreciation more from H, and because of it, H is doing more to get my praise. I also have found that L and even T need it too.
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Old Jan 07, 2023, 01:01 AM
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I had dinner w it’s a friend at my university. Not a disabled friend.

She told me our school must be a good place to have a disability because it was so committed to social Justice.

She was serious. Has she not been paying attention to the past two years of my life?

I politely contradicted her but didn’t get into it. But the comment is eating at me a bit. Am I overreacting to the last two years? I don’t think so.
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Old Jan 07, 2023, 03:26 AM
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That comment is staggering, @@.
You are certainly not overreacting to the last two years.
From what you've posted here, it sounds like you are surrounded by people who don't have the first idea how to be inclusive.

Being committed to social justice doesn't mean that they're not ableist twits in this scenario.
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Old Jan 07, 2023, 03:56 AM
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Today, Dr. T used the rather unfortunate analogy of a demilitarized zone to refer to the therapeutic boundaries between us. I asked about what crossing into that zone might look like. And he said I'd done so in saying I loved him without further explaining it (beyond that it wasn't romantic, which I'd thought was sufficient explanation?). That I'd definitely stepped back out of the zone now, probably further back than where I'd been before.

I said the irony of this was, I'd shared that because I felt safe and secure in the relationship. And now it felt less safe. He agreed on the irony and seemed a little sad about it. Said he thinks we can get back to where we were. Also said that he sees love (in general) at this one extreme end (he gestured), whereas I see it as this broad spectrum (he waved his hand back and forth). And that his reaction was about how he sees it. That it feels different now understanding how I view it.

I know that all probably sounds pretty negative, but it generally feels OK right now with him, like we're working things through. And there was a nice moment near the end when Dr. T was like, "Wow, look at that huge hawk!" Me; "Where?" He said I'd probably have to stand up to see it, so I did. He pointed, "In the tree right there," I still didn't see it. I moved a bit closer to him (still a couple feet away) so I could better follow his pointing, then I was like, "Oh! Wow!" It was a big hawk (maybe a red-tailed hawk?) perched in a tree maybe 10 feet from his window. Then it flew off.
Nothing wrong with telling someone you love them. Don’t think he’s done a good job with this.
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Old Jan 07, 2023, 03:57 AM
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No I don’t think you’re over reacting. Having a policy is different from actual implementation.
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Old Jan 07, 2023, 03:59 AM
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Well blow me down, h actually pulled up his big boy pants and we ended up having a really nice visit with son and his gf. We even went out to dinner with them, just got home. I'm just so absolutely proud of him!! He's grown into such a good man. I was proud of myself for not crying when we said goodbye.


Kiddos to your parenting. You have helped get him to this point.
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Old Jan 07, 2023, 06:25 AM
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Nothing wrong with telling someone you love them. Don’t think he’s done a good job with this.

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Old Jan 07, 2023, 07:25 AM
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I had dinner w it’s a friend at my university. Not a disabled friend.

She told me our school must be a good place to have a disability because it was so committed to social Justice.

She was serious. Has she not been paying attention to the past two years of my life?

I politely contradicted her but didn’t get into it. But the comment is eating at me a bit. Am I overreacting to the last two years? I don’t think so.

Ugh, I'm sorry. I imagine the whole social justice commitment is an optics thing: "look how good we are!" Sort of like big corporations making headlines for donating money to charity when they're screwing over their hourly workers.

Sounds like she just doesn't get it. Is it worth the energy of trying to explain to her? That's something only you can know.
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Old Jan 07, 2023, 11:49 AM
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Do you ever tell him these things? When you're proud of him? That you think he's a good man?

I have found that praising my H when he does good goes further then nagging him when he acts up. They need that praising and uplifting as much as we do. Everyone does. And sometimes we forget to say it. I know I've been trying to show my appreciation more from H, and because of it, H is doing more to get my praise. I also have found that L and even T need it too.
I tell my son that all the time, yes.... that's who i was talking about being proud of.

I guess I should take a moment to let H know I appreciate that he did come out and socialize. I've been so aggravated with him lately, I guess because I'm still not over the comments he made recently about my weight. I should just let it go and move on. Thanks Scarlet for the reminder.
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Old Jan 07, 2023, 11:54 AM
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Nothing wrong with telling someone you love them. Don’t think he’s done a good job with this.
I agree with this. It reminds me of L and her whole "you don't know me" when I'd tell her I loved her. I wish like the dickens I'd had the nerve to respond "And you don't get to tell me how I feel." But alas, I never did.

eta: and besides, isn't there enough hate in the world, that an honest expression of platonic love should be a good thing instead of being twisted up into some awkward, shameful thing?! Yeah, I guess it's still a sore subject with me

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Old Jan 07, 2023, 11:56 AM
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They cancelled overtime today! after I'd already worked 4.5 hours, but still.... woohoo!
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Old Jan 07, 2023, 02:00 PM
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I tell my son that all the time, yes.... that's who i was talking about being proud of.

I guess I should take a moment to let H know I appreciate that he did come out and socialize. I've been so aggravated with him lately, I guess because I'm still not over the comments he made recently about my weight. I should just let it go and move on. Thanks Scarlet for the reminder.
Oh my gosh! I apologize for reading your post wrong.
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Old Jan 07, 2023, 02:04 PM
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Oh my gosh! I apologize for reading your post wrong.
it's all good i need to be more careful how i write
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Old Jan 07, 2023, 02:44 PM
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I agree with this. It reminds me of L and her whole "you don't know me" when I'd tell her I loved her. I wish like the dickens I'd had the nerve to respond "And you don't get to tell me how I feel." But alas, I never did.

eta: and besides, isn't there enough hate in the world, that an honest expression of platonic love should be a good thing instead of being twisted up into some awkward, shameful thing?! Yeah, I guess it's still a sore subject with me
Hugs, Artie! And thanks. I wish I'd thought to mention this yesterday. But I recently resumed a friendship with someone, and I was unsure about it at first. Dr. T said something about, "I think it's good to have as many people who care about you as possible." I know "care" isn't the same as "love," but I feel similarly about love.

I definitely need to talk to him more about this. He also said some really confusing things yesterday regarding what I wanted from the therapeutic relationship. Like how I wanted more than what I should, like connection, nurturing, and support. I (crying), said, "So it's not OK if I feel connected, supported, and nurtured by you?" And he replied, "Yes, it's OK, those are important to get from a therapeutic relationship." Which, what??? Didn't he just completely contradict himself? I need to clarify that Monday.

Maybe it's actually a good thing that he's going out of town the following week....I'll see a new backup T (usual one will be away, too, though I wish I was seeing her).
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Old Jan 07, 2023, 03:01 PM
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I had dinner w it’s a friend at my university. Not a disabled friend.

She told me our school must be a good place to have a disability because it was so committed to social Justice.

She was serious. Has she not been paying attention to the past two years of my life?

I politely contradicted her but didn’t get into it. But the comment is eating at me a bit. Am I overreacting to the last two years? I don’t think so.
It sounds like they actually think the university is doing a good job from her observations of what the institute claims they do. I know it is not your job to educate people but it may be good opportunity to educate in a nice way to her them see the short comings of the program. People who are not affected may not really understand. In short, believing what the powers that me are telling them. Kind of like the media. People have to do their own research if they really want to know the truth.

I think the comment was probably out of ignorance. But I can also see how it would make you feel unseen and frustrated. I'm sorry your university is so difficult to deal with.
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Old Jan 07, 2023, 11:23 PM
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@@, I'm sorry it seems like your friend has her blinders on right now. If it helps, we see you.
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Old Jan 07, 2023, 11:37 PM
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comrade, I'm sorry you're dealing with this BS with your mother. It seems like you might be able to talk to your GP and get some sort of answer without having to rely on her to provide information. I hope you're able to find some answers soon and that your break is helpful.
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Old Jan 08, 2023, 11:14 AM
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Im watching Cesar (Milan) 911. He always brings his dog Junior, a pittie, on housecalls and makes him the guinea pig or fall guy with the "bad" dogs. I swear today i could see Junior thinking, "Dude i did not sign up for this shyte!"
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Im watching Cesar (Milan) 911. He always brings his dog Junior, a pittie, on housecalls and makes him the guinea pig or fall guy with the "bad" dogs. I swear today i could see Junior thinking, "Dude i did not sign up for this shyte!"
Pit bulls are viscious, its why they got put on the dangerous dogs list here in the uk and banned, its illegal to have them here for that reason

Although i thi k chiwawawas should be banned as well, ankle biters (although with them its a case of the owners letting them bite people's ankles)
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