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Old Mar 20, 2023, 04:18 AM
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I think I feel like I treated HIM like crap though & that’s what’s bothering me
How so?? You have to get past that part - you likely were REACTING to how poorly he treats YOU. This self blame serves no purpose. It is clouding you from seeing him realistically as an abuser and someone to steer clear of.
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Old Mar 20, 2023, 04:24 AM
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How so?? You have to get past that part - you likely were REACTING to how poorly he treats YOU. This self blame serves no purpose. It is clouding you from seeing him realistically as an abuser and someone to steer clear of.
Exactly. That’s what abusers do. Treat you badly but when you react, shift the blame on you labeling you an abuser when really what you do is just react.
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Old Mar 20, 2023, 04:26 AM
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Exactly. That’s what abusers do. Treat you badly but when you react, shift the blame on you labeling you an abuser when really what you do is just react.
Yep - and then the true abuser gets a person to doubt their perceptions and sense of reality because they accept the blame.
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Old Mar 20, 2023, 10:03 AM
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I have had someone in my life,who was treating me insanely poor,until I reacted,tried to question the unfairness of it,then called me the trouble maker. This is classic abuse tactic. Trust what all are telling you here.
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Old Mar 20, 2023, 11:42 AM
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How so?? You have to get past that part - you likely were REACTING to how poorly he treats YOU. This self blame serves no purpose. It is clouding you from seeing him realistically as an abuser and someone to steer clear of.
I know I’m working on getting past it & feeling like the bad guy in the situation…looking back I realize that even if he wasn’t actively abusing me in that moment I reacted, it was out of confusion & hurt that he built expectations in my head & then would snatch them away & build them up & so on so I was never settled
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Old Mar 20, 2023, 11:43 AM
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Exactly. That’s what abusers do. Treat you badly but when you react, shift the blame on you labeling you an abuser when really what you do is just react.
yeah he’d always say “you don’t get to make me the bad guy” or “I’m tired of you making me seem like the bad guy”
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Old Mar 20, 2023, 11:58 AM
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yeah he’d always say “you don’t get to make me the bad guy” or “I’m tired of you making me seem like the bad guy”
“Oh ok, I see, too bad. Bye”. That’s all you need to say
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Old Mar 20, 2023, 03:09 PM
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“Oh ok, I see, too bad. Bye”. That’s all you need to say
I just wish I could stop feeling like the bad guy lol
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Old Mar 20, 2023, 04:01 PM
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I just wish I could stop feeling like the bad guy lol
Try to detach from the situation. Imagine you had a daughter, niece, best friend etc would you wish the kind of partner on them? Would you be happy and excited that your loved one had this guy for a husband and had kids with him. If not, then why do you wish such partner on yourself? In addition look at the situation realistically. You wanted to date him but he was dating other people so how are you the bad guy?

It doesn’t matter he’s the bad guy or not. He’s not a match for you
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Old Mar 21, 2023, 11:45 AM
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Try to detach from the situation. Imagine you had a daughter, niece, best friend etc would you wish the kind of partner on them? Would you be happy and excited that your loved one had this guy for a husband and had kids with him. If not, then why do you wish such partner on yourself? In addition look at the situation realistically. You wanted to date him but he was dating other people so how are you the bad guy?

It doesn’t matter he’s the bad guy or not. He’s not a match for you
I guess I feel like the bad guy for getting upset/jealous about him entertaining other girls because he told me we were just friends but would act like we were more but would say we weren’t? so I feel like I didn’t really have a right to get upset at him I guess….
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Old Mar 21, 2023, 01:22 PM
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I guess I feel like the bad guy for getting upset/jealous about him entertaining other girls because he told me we were just friends but would act like we were more but would say we weren’t? so I feel like I didn’t really have a right to get upset at him I guess….
You two aren’t a couple so I’d say it doesn’t matter if you are a bad guy or not. You wanted him to be your boyfriend. He doesn’t want it. So I think analyzing it to death doesn’t serve any purpose.
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Old Mar 21, 2023, 02:35 PM
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You two aren’t a couple so I’d say it doesn’t matter if you are a bad guy or not. You wanted him to be your boyfriend. He doesn’t want it. So I think analyzing it to death doesn’t serve any purpose.
but it matters to me I guess because he would say how much I’m his best friend & how great of a friend was so I think that’s why I feel bad idk
you’re right
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Old Mar 21, 2023, 03:12 PM
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but it matters to me I guess because he would say how much I’m his best friend & how great of a friend was so I think that’s why I feel bad idk
you’re right
I’d not trust what he says. He seems to say things he thinks you want to hear. He is bad news. And he blocked you so none of it matters. He’s not important
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Old Mar 28, 2023, 08:47 AM
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RUN LIKE HELL,! Nothing like a person who may be a narcissistic leech. Your not crazy but that is abnormal behavior on his part. Good luck!

Absolutely block his number…..it is his way of giving a cold shoulder because he plans on you knowing your number is blocked (did you call him? Is this how you found out?) …I strongly urge you to look up narcissistic personality and the things they do to people. Do not take this lightly, please, for your heath sake. Do not feel guilty, do not blame your self, DO block his number.

Doubtful but possible it could be substance abuse. However, people with strong traits of narcissistic and antisocial personality, it isn’t about forgetting or being able to recall. They remember perfectly but want to MAKE you feel like you are losing your concept of reality and “losing your mind.” He is 100% gaslighting her…..He knows exactly what he is doing or not doing. So truly empathetic for what she is enduring.😔

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