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Does God hate people punish people does he allow bad things to happen for us to be hurt and feel alone does he really listen or is he not
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Old Oct 13, 2012, 02:24 AM
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I think that God wants us to be joyful, but sometimes some difficulties make us stronger I think.
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Old Oct 13, 2012, 02:41 AM
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I think that God wants us to be joyful, but sometimes some difficulties make us stronger I think.
I don't feel. Stronger I feel like giving up I feel sick
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Does God hate people punish people does he allow bad things to happen for us to be hurt and feel alone does he really listen or is he not


god hates no one.

he loves you a lot (and that's coming from a non believer!)

i mujst have faith in you
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Old Oct 13, 2012, 06:46 AM
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god hates no one.

he loves you a lot (and that's coming from a non believer!)

i mujst have faith in you
I not a believer much either I lost faith
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Old Oct 13, 2012, 12:44 PM
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Well, how about I tell you what my religion says about God and his relationship with his creation?
maybe that can help you better understand what is happening to you in your life.


Does God hate people ?

God only hates those who are outright disbilievers, and those who are arrogant in claiming their disbelief, because he has given you so many signs! and yet they still don't believe! ask them, is it more difficult to create you, a human being, or the heavens that we have created over you without pillars? or what about the mountains, great in their size and steadfastness? and the what about the rising of the sun, can you create the likes of it? we(God) make it rise from the east, can you make it rise from the west? little do you ponder over such matters!

Punish people?

oh human being, why is it that when we test you with wealth and luxurious life you say "my lord has honored me!"? and when we test you with hardships(lack of: friendship, social gains, material gains) and with a lack of wealth you say "my lord has dishonored me!"? (ie. meaning he is angry with you displeased with you)

this world is only a test to see if you will believe in Him, the one creator, the ruler of the heavens and the earth

does he allow bad things to happen for us to be hurt and feel alone ?

in my religion, God has told us that he will test us with some things of fear and hunger and a decrease in wealth, people and crops.... and give glad tidings to those who have patience with the will of their creator. those whom are afflicted with an affliction say we belong to our lord and to him we will return. Those are the people that obtain blessings from their lord and mercy, and those most defenitly are the ones who are guided.

does he really listen or is he not?

This is one of the most beautiful things that i personally love about my religion.
God said: and if my slave asks you about me (God) then I am near, I answer the call of the caller if calls upon me, so answer upon my(God's) call and believe in me (as the only creator, the one lord) so that they might be set upright.



I hope this gives you answers to your questions.
Belief is your choice, for their is no compulsion in religion.
I only wish you could read this in it's original language, because it is so much more beautiful.

If you have more questions, I would love to answer them, to the best of my ability, of course.
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Old Oct 13, 2012, 06:18 PM
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Well, how about I tell you what my religion says about God and his relationship with his creation?
maybe that can help you better understand what is happening to you in your life.


Does God hate people ?

God only hates those who are outright disbilievers, and those who are arrogant in claiming their disbelief, because he has given you so many signs! and yet they still don't believe! ask them, is it more difficult to create you, a human being, or the heavens that we have created over you without pillars? or what about the mountains, great in their size and steadfastness? and the what about the rising of the sun, can you create the likes of it? we(God) make it rise from the east, can you make it rise from the west? little do you ponder over such matters!

Punish people?

oh human being, why is it that when we test you with wealth and luxurious life you say "my lord has honored me!"? and when we test you with hardships(lack of: friendship, social gains, material gains) and with a lack of wealth you say "my lord has dishonored me!"? (ie. meaning he is angry with you displeased with you)

this world is only a test to see if you will believe in Him, the one creator, the ruler of the heavens and the earth

does he allow bad things to happen for us to be hurt and feel alone ?

in my religion, God has told us that he will test us with some things of fear and hunger and a decrease in wealth, people and crops.... and give glad tidings to those who have patience with the will of their creator. those whom are afflicted with an affliction say we belong to our lord and to him we will return. Those are the people that obtain blessings from their lord and mercy, and those most defenitly are the ones who are guided.

does he really listen or is he not?

This is one of the most beautiful things that i personally love about my religion.
God said: and if my slave asks you about me (God) then I am near, I answer the call of the caller if calls upon me, so answer upon my(God's) call and believe in me (as the only creator, the one lord) so that they might be set upright.



I hope this gives you answers to your questions.
Belief is your choice, for their is no compulsion in religion.
I only wish you could read this in it's original language, because it is so much more beautiful.

If you have more questions, I would love to answer them, to the best of my ability, of course.
Thanku I have lots of questions
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Old Oct 13, 2012, 06:30 PM
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Everyone can have their own beliefs about God. I believe in a God who does not punish. I also don't believe in an all powerful God who "makes" bad things happen to people. Bad things just happen, to nearly all people at some point in their lives. I think God loves us unconditionally exactly where we are. I also believe God wants us to move forward and through our struggles, whatever they may be.

I am sorry you have lost your faith, but the fact that you still wonder and question is a good sign to me. In my opinion if you are still thinking and wondering then there is still hope there? I hope so.

Thanks for posting this, I hope to keep hearing from you on the forums!
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Everyone can have their own beliefs about God. I believe in a God who does not punish. I also don't believe in an all powerful God who "makes" bad things happen to people. Bad things just happen, to nearly all people at some point in their lives. I think God loves us unconditionally exactly where we are. I also believe God wants us to move forward and through our struggles, whatever they may be.

I am sorry you have lost your faith, but the fact that you still wonder and question is a good sign to me. In my opinion if you are still thinking and wondering then there is still hope there? I hope so.

Thanks for posting this, I hope to keep hearing from you on the forums!
I remember when I was four and daddy was doing thing's I prayed cried to God to make him stop to help to stop the pain he never stopped it got worse and I remember daddy telling me no one loves me especially God and he will never help me he hasnt
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Old Oct 13, 2012, 10:48 PM
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Try to get the book "the chosen" by Potok... It answers a lot of questions about why things happen to us like this.
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God sometimes does not give answers to what we want answered. And a lot of that has to do with people who interfere and the answers that we don't want.
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I remember when I was four and daddy was doing thing's I prayed cried to God to make him stop to help to stop the pain he never stopped it got worse and I remember daddy telling me no one loves me especially God and he will never help me he hasnt

Oh dear, I'm so sorry your father treated you badly. HE was wrong, not you. You were an innocent child. He was probably saying that because of his own sickness. It's no wonder you believe God hates you.

I personally believe that God loves everyone and we are all God's children. However I often don't like the word God and sometimes prefer thinking of a Spirit of the universe that is everywhere and lives in all of us. Maybe it would help to think of a good spirit or something other than "God".
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Old Oct 17, 2012, 09:49 PM
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Oh dear, I'm so sorry your father treated you badly. HE was wrong, not you. You were an innocent child. He was probably saying that because of his own sickness. It's no wonder you believe God hates you.

I personally believe that God loves everyone and we are all God's children. However I often don't like the word God and sometimes prefer thinking of a Spirit of the universe that is everywhere and lives in all of us. Maybe it would help to think of a good spirit or something other than "God".
thanku for understanding
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God has given you this physical/emotional body to make choices from which we learn
and grow.
We are not always in control of what happens to us but he has given us the ability to control how we respond to any given situation.
Man may brake your bones, may break your heart, but your spirit is your personal connection with your God.
You say that you dont feel, but you do.
Find your own unique spiritual relationship and your heart will open and your eyes will see what your truth is. This takes time and patience. However when you stick with the truth that will become your faith and with that noone can harm you.
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Old Oct 18, 2012, 12:32 AM
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I don't think god hates me. But I think he likes to play games with me. Give me something great and take it away. Make me more and more humbled. Like started out good, like stripping me of narcissism, realizing I'm a nobody. But now. Everything I sort of gain. Everything that gives me happiness or a sense of being able. Wham! Taken away.

I don't know why god does this to me.
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Does God hate people punish people does he allow bad things to happen for us to be hurt and feel alone does he really listen or is he not

Very, very good questions! Rather than tell you my opinion, I would like to show you what the Bible says. I belive it is inspired of God and contains His thoughts.

You have actually asked several questions:

1. Does God hate people?

2. Does He punish people?

3. Does He allow bad things to happen for us to be hurt and feel alone? (And a related question would be, Why does he allow bad things to happen that hurt us?)

4. Does He really listen?

Which one of these questions would you like to know the answer to first?

If you PM me, I will do my best to tell you what the Bible says.

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Old Oct 18, 2012, 04:39 PM
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Emotionally Drained, you ask some very deep questions. The bottom line is why does God allow suffering, especially of innocent children? My mind is too little to understand all the complexities of that answer, but I can tell you, God is good. He does not cause suffering, punish sweet innocent children, and He loves you more than you could ever imagine. His love has no beginnning and no end; I know that for a fact. I know without a doubt that He knows the number of hairs on your head, has
heard your every prayer, and when you cry, he cries with you. Some things I just know, and this is one of them.
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God as a Super Parent is a Cultureual imprint. Many middle eastern religions have a super parent god. Dont worry about judgement form a Super Parent. Honor yourself, know that you are a part of all there is.
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Old Oct 23, 2012, 04:27 PM
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God is LOVE......God gave humans the free will to make their choices even those choices that hurt others.......it's God's love that we have to hold onto even during the times that the others choose to do the things that hurt us. In the long run they will have to answer to God for their action even though we may not see it during our life time around them.

I know that God has provided & taken care of me even when I didn't think he was.....but in the long run...looking back even after the times I didn't want to survive through, I could see God's hands being the guide through that bad time.....but only afterward.....not during.
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Old Oct 30, 2012, 10:40 PM
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God doesn't hate you but it's okay if you feel like God does.

Feelings are always authentically felt, even when they're not authentically grounded. So while God doesn't hate anybody, in God's goodness God deeply aches for you and recognizes how painful it would feel to think God did hate you. God is not insecure, nor is God so small as to "need" us think rightly of God in order for God to feel good about God's own self. (We humans on the other hand seem to do that quite a bit.) God is Love. The opposite of love is not hate, it is indifference and the only things God hates are those things that torment us, God's own beloved. Even when we do wrong, God knows (as we do deep down) that we are acting out of pain.

God loves you. God can hear and accept anything you bring, including anger at God or the fear that God might hate you. God understands that our experiences, struggles, and wounds can lead us to such pained thoughts and weeps for us. God loves you, not for what you do, but because you are Good. Not good enough. Good. And God's love, while it calls us against what is wrong, does so in the same way a parent may be angry with a child for crossing the street without looking. The surface is anger but that anger is rooted in a deep and abiding love for you, a person God wants to be safe from all the "traffic" of life.
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I remember when I was four and daddy was doing thing's I prayed cried to God to make him stop to help to stop the pain he never stopped it got worse and I remember daddy telling me no one loves me especially God and he will never help me he hasnt
People's ideas of "God" are based on their own experiences, I think. I too felt at one time that "God" hated me and wanted me to die, but I think now that that was just due to what many people say about "God" -- how vengeful "he" is, how willing to inflict injury. This kind of "God" is seen in what we call the Old Testament/Hebrew Bible, and in the New Testament as well. I think it has little to do with any actual Creator of the Universe. It is our own creation.
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I admit that I have not read all these posts, so what I say might already have been said or whatever. That is, IMO sometimes people do bring bad experiences on themselves and then blame a god.

The God I believe in hates sin, but not the sinner.

Sometimes crap just happens, too. Like my falling down stairs in August. I'll be months finally healing. In my case, though, I admit to saying something to somebody and not looking where I was putting my foot.

(Is this "religious" talk?)
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