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Old Jan 03, 2014, 11:55 AM
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Wow - there is way too much to read to catch up.
Anyway my sweet new bike came today
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Old Jan 03, 2014, 12:09 PM
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i know.
its a miracle im not in the hospital right now.

THATS what its come down to now
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Old Jan 03, 2014, 12:18 PM
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Old Jan 03, 2014, 12:24 PM
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Old Jan 03, 2014, 12:25 PM
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im sorta afraid my antipsychotic medication is making me lazy. i dont want to be seen as lazy. my dads been callin me lazy lately.
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Old Jan 03, 2014, 12:31 PM
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Willow you are thinking about this like the world is a fair place...it is not...the world is inherently unfair. If it were fair we would all be born beautiful and smart and grow up to have amazing lives and families with not a hint of illness ever. Because the world is unfair you have to treat it that way. In an honest world you couldn't be sectioned but the world is not honest. People lie...they often lie for what they believe to be good reasons. They will lie because they care about you. What would it take for your mom and dad to lie to your doctors? Two people with that ever handy sane stamp marked on their hands vs. whatever you say with that not so handy MI stamp? They are your parents they would lie if they thought it would save you or at least I know that mine would.
Now imagine you are at a point where you have been deemed unfit to make your own decisions thanks to your parents testimony...more ect? Maybe some injectable meds? Who knows? Maybe they'll start cutting down on your privelleges? No visitors? It doesn't matter..at this point they have already won it is only a matter of time until you break and do what they want...they have complete control. You will only leave the hospital if you become what they ask you to whether it is the truth or not. What I am saying is if you are at some point going to have to lie to save yourself by conforming to what they want then it is easier to start lying now while you aren't under constant surveillance. That's why I'm saying find something to tell the OT that might not be horrible to do. You have your doctors and your parents working to help you but if you don't accept that help they will find a way to force you to accept help and when that happens I don't think you will enjoy it. You need to protect the freedom that you have by doing some things you find unpleasant. Just think about it. If you disagree then do nothing but don't be surprised if you find yourself back in the hospital again. When your parents are saying we're worried about seeing you go to the hospital what they are really saying is we're in over our heads and thinking about calling the hospital again. Last time the second pdoc saved you but if you have a history of refusing treatment they might not be so fair next time. Think of all the people here on injectable meds who don't want to be...do you think that they wanted that to happen...refuse treatment enough and they find a way to exert control. It's only a matter of time, they will always win. The only way to beat the system is to change the system and that can't be done from the inside because they own you. Until you either are well or can feign wellness you will be forever persecuted. I suppose this could be argued to be overly dramatic but it's how I feel right now. Perhaps it's even irresponsible for me to tell you of these possibilities, maybe it's a touch paranoid. Regardless of what you choose to do I hope you start feeling better. It's 2014 start clean but don't forget the past.
Thank you Sometimes. I've thought a lot about what you wrote. I agree with you in general about how powerful psychiatry is, but I don't think it applies to me. You see they think nothing is wrong with me. They won't give me meds or ECT even when I asked for it. So I don't see why they would try to force me to do anything. I am nothing to them. I won't cancel the OT appt so I can't be seen as refusing treatment. The OT will refuse me; she was practically itching to last time I saw her anyway. No-one wants to treat me!

Also you're right about hospital sucking away your will to live, it's completely backwards! My ward had 2 tvs but daytime tv is so appalling that it was always rubbish no matter what one you watched!

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@Cracking: Sorry you're sick I have a cold and my throat is so sore. Luckily they don't last forever. Hope you feel better soon.

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Old Jan 03, 2014, 12:36 PM
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im sorta afraid my antipsychotic medication is making me lazy. i dont want to be seen as lazy. my dads been callin me lazy lately.
I'm lazy I didn't use to be. I just don't care about things anymore.

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Old Jan 03, 2014, 12:47 PM
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i know.
its a miracle im not in the hospital right now.

THATS what its come down to now
Yeah, same here.
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Thank you Sometimes. I've thought a lot about what you wrote. I agree with you in general about how powerful psychiatry is, but I don't think it applies to me. You see they think nothing is wrong with me. They won't give me meds or ECT even when I asked for it. So I don't see why they would try to force me to do anything. I am nothing to them. I won't cancel the OT appt so I can't be seen as refusing treatment. The OT will refuse me; she was practically itching to last time I saw her anyway. No-one wants to treat me!

Also you're right about hospital sucking away your will to live, it's completely backwards! My ward had 2 tvs but daytime tv is so appalling that it was always rubbish no matter what one you watched!

@Faerie: Thanks so much for the hugs. I really need them Glad you can read today

@Cracking: Sorry you're sick I have a cold and my throat is so sore. Luckily they don't last forever. Hope you feel better soon.

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Well, I really hope you're right about it obviously I'm not in your shoes. I do hope you start feeling better soon though, I think its so odd they won't give you meds or therapy it like the old pull yourself up by your bootstraps method...
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Old Jan 03, 2014, 01:09 PM
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Nice bike, Kureha. That's awesome. I like the red.

Newtus: I hate being called lazy. I get called lazy because of my disorganization problems. It's not laziness. I just can't seem to sort things and put them in order very easily. I've had this problem a long time but it gets worse. When I tell people I get confused and frustrated they say it's an excuse and I'm just lazy. Being called lazy is a huge trigger for me. I hate it.
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Old Jan 03, 2014, 01:14 PM
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well.

i had to put my cat to sleep this morning.

i am devastated. it happened so fast. his bloodwork was bad. they said he was in pain. i had to make the decision right then. it was awful

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Old Jan 03, 2014, 01:27 PM
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Oh JunkDNA, I'm so sorry to hear about your poor kitty. He was such a pretty thing, but at least he's not in pain anymore. JunkDNA

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Old Jan 03, 2014, 01:43 PM
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Old Jan 03, 2014, 02:05 PM
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aw JunkDNA im so sorry
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im on a beer buying frenzy. i bought more beer today and then some malt liquor. now i maybe 4 differents kinds of beers in multiple cans in my fridge...prob have 15 cans of beer of diff kinds...

now idk if i should feel bad about having so much alcohol around my dad when he cant drink
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Old Jan 03, 2014, 03:48 PM
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me "dad where was i conceived?"

dad "ask ur mom"
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I'm so sorry, junkDNA.

I know how it is. My kitty Freckles, I had her since I was 11 years old and she was my cat for 14 years. she was the last of the old barn cat line from my grandma's farm. Anyway, I had to rush her to the ER one night and they did the same thing to me. She was really sick and I had to decide right then. I have her ashes in this pretty wooden box and they made a stamp of her paw in clay for me. So, I know how hard it is.

newtus: at least don't drink in his presence. I think if he's not witnessing it will help, but really, as he works on it try talking to him about his feelings on this. Some people are able to understand just because they can't drink doesn't mean no one can, but other people are unable to withold from the temptation.
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i talked to him about it. i asked how does it make him feel when i do it in his presence. he says he feels left out of "the party" or basically doing what everyone else is doing. but when i got more beer today he wanted some again.

i just dont want to feel like i cant do it caus he cant. but i feel like i have to.
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@Cracking_Slowly Did you vomit shortly after eating? Do you feel a mild pain in your back? I had these symptoms a few months ago; I thought it was food intoxication, but it turns out it's an 'upgraded' version of virosis.
No I have not had any vomiting at all. However, every muscle and joint in my body aches. I've been taking Ibuprofen for the pain.
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Old Jan 03, 2014, 05:34 PM
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sounds exactly like the flu CrackingSlowly
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I'm sorry that I haven't been more supportive for you all lately. I'm still very sick. I just feel miserable and tired of this pain!
Anyways I'm so sorry to those of you that are struggling. I'm very sorry for the loss of your beautiful kitty junkDNA! Reading your post filled me with tears! I love my little doggie more than words could ever describe so I cannot imagine how you're feeling. I am so, so sorry. I know it is very painful to have to make that type of decision over someone you need and love so much. I will pray for peace for you. Hang in there!
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sounds exactly like the flu CrackingSlowly
Yes I do believe it is the flu. I have all the terrible flu symptoms. I'm going on day 5 with it. I'm praying the end of it is here soon. I don't know how much more of this I can take. I need to be well for work on Monday! Ugh!
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i talked to him about it. i asked how does it make him feel when i do it in his presence. he says he feels left out of "the party" or basically doing what everyone else is doing. but when i got more beer today he wanted some again.

i just dont want to feel like i cant do it caus he cant. but i feel like i have to.
Well, maybe you have to for a short time, not forever. maybe in time he wont' feel that way any more, but just to get passed the initial stages. For examle my MIL always tries to quit smoking, she struggles on her own and neither me or my husband smoke. But, if her brother or my BIL come around they both smoke she smokes 10x more than normal. She just can't handle it at all if they are around.

Does he have any outside support for helping him through this, like AA or something? I know for me I do better exercising going walking with these two ladies at work. Even though sometimes they piss me off with their points of view on certain things, as long as we stay off topics like politics and keep to shallow topics it works out okay. And I need to walk. I can't stay fat and get diabetes and die from a heart attack. But I struggle doing it on my own.
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