Mental Health Act - Sectioned - poss Trigger

Saw my pdoc doc and he is getting another psychiatrist opinion on me, which is weird cause he got one yesterday. He seems to be scared I will harm myself as I told him my plan and intent to do this within a week if nothing changed.

In Aus is is called 'being formed' under the mental HA. They are coming back in in two hours. It take two psychiatrist to approve being sectioned so I am terrified that is what they are doing. The public hospital her is a disgrace. I cannot bear to be in on.

What can I do? Act sane?. Run away? or accept my fate and let them hold me for 72 hours. It is one of those hospitals that is so dank, dirty and full of crazy far above me that it will certainly be traumatising.

Maybe I need to go to save my life. Maybe it will just make me worse?

I would listen to my pdoc's

Thanks. But locking me up would be anther trauma. I have had too many to count so this one may be the one that broke the camel's back to to speak. I guess you are are right. Not obeying them will just end up in a police chase before I am sent in.

You are sounding better, much more clear, so hopefully it would only be for the 72 hours and they'd feel you are safe. I'm sorry this has been such a hard battle this time around. I think running away would be a worse trauma than the other hospital.

Being escorted police would be awful. I can only imagine. I am thinking a bit clearer. So why now? I guess I have had with life and my doctor sees that and is very concerned. I told him my plans and that it was imminent. I also said this ward is too easy to get out of should I want tp act. It is a joke. He looked distressed for the first time. I just hope the other psychiatrist and him can help me without seeing him to another hospital.

The most dangerous time is after being discharged for being suicidal. So maybe they are worried that as you feel better your risk will increase? You've been through so much and it's really hard to not want to give up when that happens. That was how things were for me (although I had less psychosis and fewer hospitalizations) until Clozaril.

I had one admission pre-clozaril where I finally got the nerve to tell a nurse that if they sent me home I had a complete plan set up. I was supposed to be discharged in 2 days. I was kept a lot longer and had to have a safety plan but it was hard seeing how rattled my therapist and pdoc were because I usually tell them when things are that bad and that time I just couldn't. It scares me now to look back at that time and I am so glad I wrote that letter even though it put me on line of sight supervision which kept me awake and which I generally hated and begged to have removed.

You'll get through this. You have great courage and strength and you've managed so many hard times in your life.

I can only imagine how closed wards would look like in those chronically underfunded systems. I am sorry you have to go through this. I wish you all the best and hope you'll be better soon.

Thanks everyone. I made it through assessments to be able to stay voluntarily, for toda at least. Being reassessed in the morning. I haven’t helped my case my writing a note and packing the essentials to get home and, we’ll you know what. Stupidly (maybe thankfully)I told a nurse which will go on my notes. I’m guessing they will make sure I’m doped up and sleeping tonight.

It’s like I’m pulled in two contradictory ways. I wouldn’t tell them if I were sure but I am making serious plans none the less. I am also still very scared someone (s) are your to get me. Maybe it’s my doctor. He wants to drug me to the gills by adding Tegretol and two antipsychotics and removing Lamotrogine and Seroquel. I’m scared, so damn scared.

Strangely my T and a nurse I spoke to links my fears to childhood especially plus adult trauma when everyone was really out to get me. Idk as this feels like I am in danger in the present and haven’t thought of the trauma for years. Everything is coming to a head and I honestly don’t know if I will make it.

You will make it, Wander, I'm sure of that. Please don't give up. I think you're already doing much better. Try to hang on a little longer and you should be back home safely. I know it's hard. I'm so sorry you're going through all of this. But I'm sure you can make it! Stay strong. Stay safe and take care of yourself. I hope you'll feel better soon. Remember that we're here for you if you need it. Feel free to vent here as much as you want. We'll listen to what you have to say. We care about you. I'm here for you as well if you need it. Feel free to PM me anytime. Let me know if I can do something to help you. Wish you good luck! Let us know how it goes. Sending many hugs to you

Thanks so much. It means a lot to me that some of you can see improvement even I cannot.BIG hugs back you. I am trying to stay strong buy this battle is against myself and possibly those conspiring against me. I will keep trying to hang on. My hands are slipping and I am scared. What is in my head and what is real is a very fine line. I cannot even trust my usually dependable logic.

Just do your best, like you're already doing. That's all you can do, after all. You've got this. I'm sure you'll get out of it! Remember that we're here to encourage you and support you. Sending many hugs to you

I already feel much better. Why does that always happen when I can't sleep? I was deeply depressed and ready for death but here I am, happy as a clam. Oh well, I will enjoy it while it lasts.I wish I could live in this state. Life would be amazing!

I’m sorry, this sucks so much. I’ve been traumatised by “services” and I’m not sure that I would survive being “sectioned” - or I wouldn’t want to. I don’t trust them one bit. I hope they treat you with the respect and dignity that you (and all of us) deserve

I hope things work out for you, Wander. Maybe the hold will just be the 72 hours?

Thinking of you.


WC

I have been in a hospital like this. I can’t remember how long but my husband says 2 weeks. My pdoc was a head of the hospital so I was a direct admit. Everyone there was far sicker than me and it was a little scary. Then, I was supposed to room alone but they screwed up and put someone severely manic (I was suicidal and depressed) in a room with me. Moreover, she was hyper religious which I fed off of. They did separate us and apologized to my pdoc and me. Anyway, it was scary but necessary and definitely did save my life.

Thanks for the feedback everyone. I think I have dodged a bullet this time. MY depression seems to have switched to a lovely hypomania as on this morning. They will have no reason to lock me up now and more reason to discharge me. Sure my thinking is off apparently but my pdoc is giving me new meds which should calm that down. Home I go. Today or tomorrow if I can convince him to let me go willingly.

Stay as long as you need.

I'm so sorry you're going through such fears and depending on professionals you don't trust.

You didn't say much about it, but I was struck by what your T said about your fears stemming from childhood, and as an adult when you really were persecuted (If I understood it right). Do you think you might be suffering from PTSD along with Bipolar and because the PTSD hasn't been addressed (I think), your Bipolar, or your overall mental health, has been so intractable?

You are spot on. My T believes my fears of being controlled, manipulated, stalked and abused may stem my from my horrible experiences as a child and carry on experiences as an adult. He wants us to start exploring these issues more deeply (I have always resisted going there as I was terrified and felt it no longer impacted my life). I now think is is a path that may finally help me recover to a degree. I still believe I can surely fix this with my mind but am now convinced that this therapy will clear my mind to be able to do this successfully.

My diagnosis used to be Bipolar with PTSD but my T and pdoc believed the PTSD was in remission. Now they believe it is back in full force. Great, just what I need.I had over five years of therapy with my T (who is specialised and wonderful at treating PTSD) and it seemed to have worked without having to go into the specifics of the years of abuse.

Finally, I still think someone is out to harm me but have at least crossed my T and pdoc off the list. I am still terrified to in the hospital as it could be a nurse or patient but I think the fear is subsiding a bit.

My pdoc is trying me on Geodon, Tegretol and another med I cannot recall and taking me off of Lamotrigine and Seroquel. I really hope this works as I feel hopeless and very suicidal. I am still on watch to be taken to a locked ward should I define. It is scary. I am trying to be upbeat but the staff know I am putting it on as I have my vulnerable moments where I disclose mu true intentions.

Thanks again for you support.

Happy go lucky hypomania turned dark on me last night. Suicidal urges controlled me and again I was on constant observations until my pdoc arrived after they had given me copious amounts of meds. I was compliant by then so after more meds fell asleep and woke with a hangover then back to a happy hypomania. Thank god no negative thoughts this time to combine with the energy. Think I’m out of the woods now...AND... the paranoia is GOnE!!!!