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Old Feb 24, 2020, 01:03 AM
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@BadNews4321: I see you are new here. Welcome to the forum! I'm happy to hear that you have work you enjoy and makes you feel useful. I sure miss that from when i worked!

In my news, i started up my second hobby again today: knitting. I'm feeling very good about it. It gives me a break from Scrabble. It's nice to do something with my hands. I like the feel of the yarn. Seeing the pattern "come up" is very exciting! It's a tumbling-block pattern. A twenty-row repeat with just the right degree of challenge. I'm doing it in white which i've never used before. Onward!

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Old Feb 24, 2020, 02:31 AM
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What about calling your Pdoc for a possible Med tweak or change or even a AP for a few days ? Today? If your tossing a bottle of pills in your mouth and physically laying hands on someone in anger you need help NOW..

What if you get so agitated again you take your pills and no one will know ? Maybe you harm yourself physically ? Your Mom ? Your partner again? Sure your Mom is coming over and your partner is around but if your a mess you could easily leave the room swallow whatever and no one know.

I think your playing with fire and you need help now.

Stay safe
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Glad you got a quick appt. I’m sure he is traumatized by watching you dump a bottle of pills in your mouth and for physically shoving him. I’m sure he will be okay..... but I am almost certain that if you are becoming unwell again in the future he is going to expect you to reach out for help much sooner or make the calls or drive you to IP whether you want to go or not.

Your going to have to agree to something like this. So once things settle down you both need to sit and make up a safety plan, in writing.

I won’t go into details but I scared my husband once years back and we made an agreement that even if I don’t think I need help , I will trust his judgement.

Stay safe
Thanks. That is good advice. I didn’t think it was anywhere near this bad until I exploded. My partner thinks it’s trauma based rage. I sense he will be ok. He actually said he was proud of me as I always repress my rage. He said he didn’t feel threatened, which is a relief.
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Old Feb 24, 2020, 02:47 AM
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One of my vocal cords is paralyzed. Who knows how long its been that way. But more than that, I've lost my upper register. I can only sing up to about an A above middle C. I can sometimes sing in a strange falsetto that works, but nothing near as well as I could back when that recording was made. I just changed my name under my avatar to "Silver Swan" because there is a famous song with the lyrics, "The silver swan, who living had no note." That's what I feel like a lot.
I'm so sorry this happened to you, Moose. That must have been so difficult for you.
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Old Feb 24, 2020, 02:55 AM
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I'm questioning my diagnosis again. It's a bit complicated, but... I have been on rexulti for 3 years (give or take) and have not had a manic episode that I can remember. Normally, one would think, "great, that means the med is working!" but rexulti isn't approved for treating mania, so that means either my low dose of lamictal (200mg) is preventing mania, or I don't have a BP diagnosis. Plus, I'm feeling fine off rexulti. No anxiety today, unlike yesterday.

I kinda wonder if I just have ADHD, and that ADHD causes my depression/anxiety. My therapist says I've been "manic," but now I just think that was my ADHD showing through (since my ADHD is normally masked by depression, and I guess I wasn't depressed for once...?). I can't recall any elevated mood states.

I don't know what I'm saying. I think I just want off these meds altogether and to just take ritalin. No more Zoloft, no more lamictal, and no more rexulti (well, I'm not taking it anymore, but you know what I mean). I fail to see what any of those meds do except for ritalin.
It is very common for people with bipolar disorder to seriously question the diagnosis, in part, because for many, it is quite episodic in nature and there are quiescent periods where everything seems great. In fact, I personally believe this quality and experience should almost be a part of the diagnostic criteria for bp (I am not entirely kidding here)--that's how common it is.

If you decide to stop all your meds, I would urge you to have a plan in place of what will happen if you have a recurrence. If you actually have the disorder and do d/c all your medication, you will almost certainly have a recurrence, likely a pretty significant one, based on all the reseatch on this topic. That is just what the data all show. Of course, some people can fly off their meds and that is great, but it is a fairly small number overall.

Sending you support!!! I support you no matter what you decide, blue. Hang in there!!!!!!!!
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Old Feb 24, 2020, 03:04 AM
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Yes and he is at it again tonight! He had a choir rehearsal at church that his dad called me and asked me to drive him to because there was a death on ex's wife's side of the family. I said I would. I told n3 that he should get a shower before we had to leave. So he gets in the bath and then wont come out when its time to leave! Says hes not going. So I had to call my ex back because he had promised the choir director that n3 would be there tonight. So i got upset. Told n3 I was really disappointed in him. I suspect he didn't care.

Well Im trying to relax watching tv in bed. I see pdoc Friday so yeah. Maybe I should take some prn Haldol tonight?
Why can't we get him a bicycle? I ride everywhere in my town--don't even have a car anymore.
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Old Feb 24, 2020, 03:07 AM
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Well I feel somewhat alone without knowing anyone who can relate to a crazy work schedule and survive with a mood disorder. Though my schedule always changed being an on-call worker, my typical weeklooked like this:

Friday: 1:30 am to 9:30 am
Saturday 1:30 am to 9:30 am
Sunday: 10:00 pm to 6:00 am (overnight)
Monday: 10:00 pm to 6:00 am (overnight)
Wednesday: 3:30 pm to 1:30 am

I work in community centers in swimming pools and ice rinks taking care of the equipment, doing maintenance, etc. It's lot of fun despite the hours. I am so happy that I am now in a full-time role working in one building and starting at 4:00 am every day. I'm feeling very productive with a regular sleep pattern nowadays.

Many people tried to convince me that this was not a career to pursue given my diagnosis and had little support, but I went ahead anyways. I personally enjoy working off-hours, as there is far less human created garbage or drama going on with very few workers and we are too busy doing our tasks anyways. I can focus on doing solid work and feeling useful.
Good for you!!!!! I worked overnights for years and years. I always found a certain weird, melancholy kind of peace in it, with it being so much quieter most of the time. Except on weekends. Terrible for my bipolar disorder, though.
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Old Feb 24, 2020, 03:15 AM
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Welp, got a whole hour and a-half of sleep tonight. Back at it again. It's fine. I don't even worry about it anymore.

Weird weather here, 50 mile an hour winds yesterday. Not good for the bicycle. Will try again in a few hours. It is supposed to have calmed down. Buncha people lost power. Limbs down everywhere. We do get fairly insane winds here, like, 80 mph or even more, occasionally, maybe once or twice a year, being pretty close to the coast and with the east end of the city at the mouth of the Columbia River Gorge.

Anyhow, mood is fairly stable right at the moment. Making progress on my writing project. So far, so good.

Love and hugs to all!!!!!!
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Old Feb 24, 2020, 06:15 AM
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Well, my dog hit the trifecta today. She can belch, fart, and snore. She also takes some time to settle in for the night. She will try to lay in different directions, with feet up and down, and even on top of me, until she finds a satisfactory position. She can have a temper tantrum if I leave her outside alone. She throws all her dogfood out of the dish with her nose, carries the dish to another place, and then leaves it upside down on the ground. Sometimes she seems like a human to me.
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Old Feb 24, 2020, 07:20 AM
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@BadNews4321: I see you are new here. Welcome to the forum! I'm happy to hear that you have work you enjoy and makes you feel useful. I sure miss that from when i worked!

In my news, i started up my second hobby again today: knitting. I'm feeling very good about it. It gives me a break from Scrabble. It's nice to do something with my hands. I like the feel of the yarn. Seeing the pattern "come up" is very exciting! It's a tumbling-block pattern. A twenty-row repeat with just the right degree of challenge. I'm doing it in white which i've never used before. Onward!

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I think it is cool you're knitting. My Grandma did and I wish I had learned from her before she passed. Maybe I'll make the effort to pick it up on my own one day.
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Old Feb 24, 2020, 07:34 AM
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Hmmmm, I remember you thinking this before. It didn't go well. Sometimes we don't know exactly what our meds are doing to help. Also, I don't think that just because a me isn't specifically indicated for a given symptom that it doesn't work on it. Like (don't know if still, but it used to be) that Lamictal wasn't indicated for BP 2, even though it works very well for that. Also, for instance, that anti-psychotic isn't only effective for psychosis.
Yeah, I know that meds can be used "off label" to treat things like mania, but I can't help but think that Rexulti does nothing for treating mania. Plenty of people on here have said it did/does nothing for treating their mania. I know that everyone reacts to meds differently, but there is a strong pattern of people on here (and other sites) stating that Rexulti does nothing for their mania, so combined with the fact Rexulti failed clinical trials aimed at proving its efficacy in treating mania, I personally think the likelihood of Rexulti effectively treating mania is very, very low. I think I am more of a hyperactive ADHD person whose normal behavior seems "manic" compared to when they're dealing with periodic depression caused by stress and the ADHD itself... but in reality, the "mania" is just ADHD hyperactivity. (I was diagnosed with "moderate to severe ADHD" with serious hyperactivity/impulsivity issues, btw, and lots of people with comorbid ADHD and depression are incorrectly diagnosed with bipolar.)
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Old Feb 24, 2020, 07:39 AM
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Bluebicycle, I also recall this train of thought in the past, and agree it didn't seem to go well. Besides the side effects, the AP did seem to help in some ways it seemed? Did you find that was the case? Whatever your actual diagnosis, I hope at your appointment tomorrow you can explain everything and your psychiatrist will take you seriously and find something that can really help you without the side effects.
Yeah, I'm going to express my diagnostic and akathisia concerns to my pdoc today. I'm basically going to bring up comorbid ADHD+depression vs bipolar, and see what he says. I kinda doubt he'll be helpful, though. Even though I've known him for 2 years, I feel like he hardly knows me because we have our appts so far apart and barely talk to each other during our appts.
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Old Feb 24, 2020, 07:53 AM
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You were manic a few months back. You were experiencing rapid speech and your thoughts were jumbled. You were unable to concentrate at work and got behind on your assignments. You had a ton of ideas and tasks that you wanted to pursue, but you couldn't focus. You were displaying very risky driving behavior and at one point you weren't eating because you didn't have food and were afraid to shop. Several of us recognized the symptoms as manic and encouraged you to get help. I believe your therapist also agreed the behavior was manic.

You have also had several bouts with paranoia and delusions. I am not diagnosing you, but all of these behaviors are not caused by your meds and they are symptomatic of something other than ADHD. I am glad the anxiety has lessened today. That is great, but you need to experience true stability for a period of months and perhaps even years before you could know one way or the other. For example, I've been med free and stable since September, but I'm still not in the clear.

Think on this a bit more Blue. Go back through your post history if you need to see it.
I've read that people with ADHD oftentimes have rapid speech and racing/jumbled thoughts. Same with wanting to do lots of things at once, which is basically due to a combination of ADHD distractibility and racing thoughts. I think I was, for once, not depressed, and that my depression was masking the ADHD symptoms.

I also think the "paranoia"/"delusions" are, in actuality, an anxiety that's like a runaway train. You know how some people see shadow figures out of the corners of their eyes or darting across the room? Doctors consider that anxiety rather than psychosis. (Just an example.) I think worrying about things excessively isn't normal by any stretch of the imagination, but I do think anxiety can make you experience some weird sh_t sometimes, if that makes sense.
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Old Feb 24, 2020, 08:03 AM
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Your a complex case Blue. But I’ll be honest when you have gotten off your meds you do okay for a short time, I think that’s due to half life of meds but then you do spiral down into a psychosis, you get very paranoid and too scared to leave the house etc .. it’s just been a pattern over and over, I’m amazed that you can function as well as you do.

Your Pdoc sucks for not addressing side effects don’t you see him this week ??

I just want you to be stable and enjoy life
Yeah, I see my pdoc today because the idiotic assistant finally set up an appt for me on Monday (today) as opposed to this Friday (originally). But she only did it because I told her I downright refuse to take rexulti anymore. I put my foot down and gave her a flat out NO to make the point that I'm not going to argue with her anymore.

I just feel like I have straight up anxiety rather than paranoia (in thinking about all of this).
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Old Feb 24, 2020, 09:07 AM
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Hi blue, I am very concerned about you.

I see you are circling back to the ideas and the arguments you tend to embrace when you are becoming ill.

This idea that you suffer from ADHD and anxiety (only) is truly nonsensical. As fern has suggested, please review your posts if you are interested in knowing the truth about what does go on for you.

You are currently showing signs of a lack of insight. You have cycled back into this period of denial of the severity of your illness. You tend to revisit these ideas and this state of mind again and again, enough so some of us recognize this as a part of your illness and part of your cycling when you stop meds and/or need a med tweak.

You've told us all about your severe paranoia. You have told us of these voices, both a male and a female, who both instruct you to do certain things, usually things like: Instructing you to take your life, telling you that you are stupid, and the list goes on.

You have reported having federal agents surrounding your home and have been scared to death for days/nights on end.

You have repeatedly been convinced it is your mission to save the world, about which you are delighted': yet, you suffer great distress trying to figure out how to execute your lofty mission.

You have told us about much more than I have listed here.

this is much more than an attention deficit and/or an anxiety issue.

I cannot blame you for wanting to deny your illness.
It's tough to accept and to deal with.

You are very bright. Your life holds a lot of promise. You current job, as well as your overall work history are very important. You live on your own and cannot afford to lose your job.

You have repeatedly told me that you do not want people around you to know about your illness. It's important you ask for help now. Should you lose control, there would be no way to guarantee your privacy .

So, yes, I am very concerned. I am totally convinced you are becoming increasingly ill, according to what YOU have reported to us, repeatedly.

I hope you'll truly consider all your friends here have written to you, in hopes of keeping you safe and as well as possible. We have no reason to lie to you. We do care very much about you, Blue.

What about it? How can you discount all your friends are expressing to you?

I'm hoping you'll seek help.
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Old Feb 24, 2020, 09:10 AM
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Is mood and how you're feeling the same thing?


My mood is dropping. I feel bad about myself that I spend so much time online...but bad that I have nothing irl that matters much to me...although I will be going to visit some kitties today! Sigh! But even that I don't feel as excited as I should. I'm tired. Lack of sleep doesn't usually bring mood down tho, or does it? Can it? I never really thought about it!
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Old Feb 24, 2020, 09:40 AM
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Blue_Bird, maybe you want to consider Christina's idea. I'm sorry about kitty, but maybe your kitty will come back. I've read that they usually do remember their homes. Perhaps your neighbor could set out some food to attract your kitty.
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Old Feb 24, 2020, 09:43 AM
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Got an 8.30 am appointment with my pdoc tomorrow. Hopefully he can make sense of what is happening to me. I feel so ashamed that I became violent. It goes against all I believe in. I hope I haven’t ruined my relationship and traumatised my partner.
I'm glad you will get support from your pdoc so soon. Please take care.
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Old Feb 24, 2020, 09:47 AM
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Well I feel somewhat alone without knowing anyone who can relate to a crazy work schedule and survive with a mood disorder. Though my schedule always changed being an on-call worker, my typical weeklooked like this:

Friday: 1:30 am to 9:30 am
Saturday 1:30 am to 9:30 am
Sunday: 10:00 pm to 6:00 am (overnight)
Monday: 10:00 pm to 6:00 am (overnight)
Wednesday: 3:30 pm to 1:30 am

I work in community centers in swimming pools and ice rinks taking care of the equipment, doing maintenance, etc. It's lot of fun despite the hours. I am so happy that I am now in a full-time role working in one building and starting at 4:00 am every day. I'm feeling very productive with a regular sleep pattern nowadays.

Many people tried to convince me that this was not a career to pursue given my diagnosis and had little support, but I went ahead anyways. I personally enjoy working off-hours, as there is far less human created garbage or drama going on with very few workers and we are too busy doing our tasks anyways. I can focus on doing solid work and feeling useful.
Welcome, BadNews4321! That's great that you enjoy your job and have mastered getting good sleep, despite late night hours.
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Old Feb 24, 2020, 09:51 AM
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Well, my dog hit the trifecta today. She can belch, fart, and snore. She also takes some time to settle in for the night. She will try to lay in different directions, with feet up and down, and even on top of me, until she finds a satisfactory position. She can have a temper tantrum if I leave her outside alone. She throws all her dogfood out of the dish with her nose, carries the dish to another place, and then leaves it upside down on the ground. Sometimes she seems like a human to me.
Your dog sounds like a real funny character! Made me smile.
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Old Feb 24, 2020, 09:55 AM
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I was productive earlier this morning, ironing some clothes for hubby. I have a lot on my "To Do" list (grocery shopping, pharmacy, tidying up house, studying French, ideally filling pill boxes). Yesterday was fun. When hubby was out walking with his friend, I put on music and danced for much of an hour. I would like to get into dancing again more often. Maybe I'll try to do a little most days. I need the exercise.
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Old Feb 24, 2020, 10:12 AM
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I was productive earlier this morning, ironing some clothes for hubby. I have a lot on my "To Do" list (grocery shopping, pharmacy, tidying up house, studying French, ideally filling pill boxes). Yesterday was fun. When hubby was out walking with his friend, I put on music and danced for much of an hour. I would like to get into dancing again more often. Maybe I'll try to do a little most days. I need the exercise.
Nice! I am not a talented dancer but it always feels great to move my body along with the music. I like to put my headphones on and damce along while I do my chores.

Enjoy the rest of your day BirdDancer.
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Old Feb 24, 2020, 11:21 AM
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I had no idea the stress I’ve been under was affecting me so badly. Yesterday I took more benzos than usual. It made me calm initially then very agitated and impulsive. My partner went out the front to have a cigarette and disappeared for an hour. Prior to that I had told him I was struggling to breath. He tried to calm me, thought I was ok then went out. As he disappeared with no notice I freaked. I was actively suicidal and had to curl in a ball to stop the stong impulse to act. When my partner came home rage consumed me and I’m ashamed to say I pushed him against the wall and yelled at him uncontrollably.

Suddenly I poured my pills in my mouth. My partner swiftly pulled them all out my mouth before they dissolved. I didn’t want to die. It was an impulsive act. After a talk and hugs with him I calmed down. I apologised profusely. He kindly forgave me and apologised for leaving without notice. He wanted to take me to hospital but I refused.

That incident has freaked me out. I am not a violent person. Circumstances are pushing me over the edge, and now maybe some PTSD and/or Bipolar has been triggered. I start university tomorrow. Oddly I’m less exhausted than before today. Maybe it was a cathartic release. I’m still agitated today so I have finished my errands and have taken some Seroquel, my prn for agitation, to calm me.

Hopefully the worst is over. My Mum is coming over today. My partner had to work today. I think I’ll be ok as long as this isn’t the beginning of a mixed state. I see my T on Wednesday. I hope he doesn’t make me go to hospital. I want to live. I’m just very irritable and easily provoked.

Possible trigger:
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Hi blue, I am very concerned about you.

I see you are circling back to the ideas and the arguments you tend to embrace when you are becoming ill.

This idea that you suffer from ADHD and anxiety (only) is truly nonsensical. As fern has suggested, please review your posts if you are interested in knowing the truth about what does go on for you.

You are currently showing signs of a lack of insight. You have cycled back into this period of denial of the severity of your illness. You tend to revisit these ideas and this state of mind again and again, enough so some of us recognize this as a part of your illness and part of your cycling when you stop meds and/or need a med tweak.

You've told us all about your severe paranoia. You have told us of these voices, both a male and a female, who both instruct you to do certain things, usually things like: Instructing you to take your life, telling you that you are stupid, and the list goes on.

You have reported having federal agents surrounding your home and have been scared to death for days/nights on end.

You have repeatedly been convinced it is your mission to save the world, about which you are delighted': yet, you suffer great distress trying to figure out how to execute your lofty mission.

You have told us about much more than I have listed here.

this is much more than an attention deficit and/or an anxiety issue.

I cannot blame you for wanting to deny your illness.
It's tough to accept and to deal with.

You are very bright. Your life holds a lot of promise. You current job, as well as your overall work history are very important. You live on your own and cannot afford to lose your job.

You have repeatedly told me that you do not want people around you to know about your illness. It's important you ask for help now. Should you lose control, there would be no way to guarantee your privacy .

So, yes, I am very concerned. I am totally convinced you are becoming increasingly ill, according to what YOU have reported to us, repeatedly.

I hope you'll truly consider all your friends here have written to you, in hopes of keeping you safe and as well as possible. We have no reason to lie to you. We do care very much about you, Blue.

What about it? How can you discount all your friends are expressing to you?

I'm hoping you'll seek help.
I love you!
^^This^^ So well put, WC.
We care about you Blue. This is very much the pattern. And like WC says, we have no reason to lie to you. Much
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The move is finished as of today. last month one of my cats had to be put to sleep because she was really sick, I still had my other cat Annie, but she got out during the move here. Now I have neither of them I'm heartbroken and miss them so much, and am filled with so much anxiety over the whole thing.

I've been very depressed. Part of it is losing my cats and part of it is likely due to the thorazine. I'm lowering the dose though (with my psychiatrists approval) then am going to ask about getting off of it entirely since I'm already on another AP and moodstabilizer, so I don't feel it's necessary right now and it's doing more harm than good at the moment. Just so sedated constantly and it's impacting my daily life in a very negative way.

Congrats on getting the move all tidied up!! I am so sorry about your kitties--that is just heartbreaking. I have no words. Maybe someday, when your grieving is less profound and immediate, you might be able to consider another cat of some sort.

Hope you are able to get off the Thorazine. It was not sedating for me, but I know it is for most. Sending you support!!
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The nightmares have become more frequent lately. My bedtime meds don`t seem to help too much at the moment but nights are hard for me sometimes. That`s the usual time I get panic attacks . I can handle my racing thoughts better during the day but at night they go into full swing. I suppose that`s also a problem. Thank you so much for asking.
I'm so sorry. Maybe let your pdoc know that things are quite a bit worse at night. Perhaps some kind of med move could help?
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