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Old Apr 19, 2012, 06:55 PM
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i just want my brother so bad right now
I can handle thisstuff then im nothing without him
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Old Apr 19, 2012, 10:00 PM
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i tried to tell her things but she just shut me out she said i was lying and making trouble and asking for attention, idk why?! Why is she acting like this maybe she dont want to hear maybe its to much
What does she think you are lying about, Alex? Asking to talk with your mother and family about how lonely and sad you feel is not "too much." it just doesn't make sense. Do you go to school? isn't there a counselor you can talk with?

I know I said this before, but I'm going to suggest it again because it's the best thing I can think of if your family truly will not or can't hear the extent of your grief.Try to find someone--a teacher, someone--who will give you time & will hear you.

Please, Alex--find that someone. She/he is your lifeline. That person is somewhere but you are going to have to take some risk to find him/her. You must meet someone new, in your neighborhood or at school perhaps.

Keep posting. Keep trying the grief links. There may be a local connection with someone through one of those.
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Old Apr 19, 2012, 11:34 PM
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((((AlexRawr))),

Sweetheart, your mother needs some time to think about so much right now. I don't think she is mad at you, she lost a child and her family is out of sorts right now. I think she is probably angry and doesn't know what to do about it. It takes time to grieve and everyone does it a little differently. Anger is a part of grieveing too, there are lots of emotions even the ones you are expressing here.

When we lose someone it leaves an empty place in our hearts and it is a shock to us in many ways. We don't just get over that quickly, it takes a while to sort through the emotions we have and to be honest, that is something we do grieve for a long time. It takes time to rebuild after a loss like this.

I think your mother just needs time. Just tell her that you love her when you can, I am sure she needs to hear that. I know you need to hear that too Alex, it will come.
Maybe you have to be the man here and try to just give your mom some love and try not to ask of her, but just keep telling her you love her.

Sometimes we think our parents should have all the answers and more strength to pick up the pieces when things fall apart. But the truth is, they are just human beings and they don't have all the answers.

I went through a lot myself and I couldn't just jump up and fix it. I went into shock and everyone got so mad at me and I did try very hard but it just happened to me.
I wish I could have just fixed everything somehow, but the experience I went through just hit me too hard. So I just wanted to share that with you so you would know that what your mom is probably really saying is that she is not ready to fix anything right now. I am sure she doesn't mean it Alex but she is just too overwhelmed right now.
But just being kind to her and telling her you love her, that is what is going to help her the most, AND that will end up helping you too.

I think your mom may be scared too Alex. So just give her some time. As I said, don't ask of her right now, and I know that is hard because you NEED TOO. But if you just keep saying you love her and be kind, that will draw her back to her family.

Please keep coming here. If you need to talk Alex you can always just come here sweetheart and we will listen.

I think that Reuben's spirit is still with you Alex. And I know he would want you to heal and try to let yourself slowly get back into your life.

I know it can be lonely for a time, try to find things that you can do to occupy your time. Maybe try to read some good books to help fill your mind too.

Remember, we are here and listening and always ready to offer as many hugs as you need.

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Old Apr 20, 2012, 07:57 PM
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No i don't know what to do now i thought she'd help me but she don't even believe me
So why would anyone else do, it's way to embarassing anyway it dont matter no more anyway
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Old Apr 20, 2012, 09:01 PM
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Old Apr 20, 2012, 09:18 PM
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Alex, I don't understand what you mean. What doesn't she believe? We all believe that you're sad and lonely and miss Ruben. We believe than you feel awful and are having trouble finding a reason to want to go on.

So if that's what you mean, we do believe that you are suffering from this unhappiness. So what is it that your mother doesn't even believe?
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Old Apr 21, 2012, 07:32 AM
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Alex, you can always share with us. What is embarrassing? Believe me, many of us have hidden secrets and we didn't think others would believe us. So don't worry about us not believing you here. You can also PM us if you feel uncomfortable sharing in the forum. You need to have someone to talk to that can support you hun.

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Old Apr 21, 2012, 03:32 PM
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i dont have anyone to talk to in rl, not really, not for things like that
im sorry im so vague about it
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Old Apr 21, 2012, 05:34 PM
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Old Apr 21, 2012, 06:28 PM
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It's ok Alex, just say whatever comes to mind. It doesn't matter ok?
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Old Apr 21, 2012, 07:14 PM
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Where to start
That's good, Alex. Do more of that.
Does it help any?
What can I do to help? Anything?

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Old Apr 22, 2012, 05:48 PM
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(((Alex))))

Believe it or not, I actually have felt just like your picture myself. Keep that picture it is a good picture that speaks volumes.

If you can express yourself that way, that is fine too.

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Old Apr 22, 2012, 06:15 PM
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its not really a picture but yeh...

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Old Apr 22, 2012, 06:29 PM
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I can see how solid and attracting Ruben is for you in this visual, Alex. Also that you mom is an important part of your life, and how connected she is to your sister. That your older brother is pretty much adrift. You're good at showing these relationships.

I'm uneasy that your father, though removed from everyone, has his eye on you all. He still seems to have control of you somehow. Is that how you feel? I mean, besides feeling so alone and wanting to be with Ruben?

I wish there were somewhere you could go and feel Ruben's presence. What does the house in your drawing represent? If it's your old home, is there any chance you could visit it--if you wanted to? Just you?
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Old Apr 23, 2012, 07:23 AM
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Hi Alex, so you have an older brother? How old is he? And a younger sister too? How old is she? There are three of you and your mom now? I am sorry but I didn't know.

Just wondering.

How are you today?

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Old Apr 23, 2012, 08:58 AM
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Are you telling your mom about some abuse and she isn't believing you?
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I can see how solid and attracting Ruben is for you in this visual, Alex. Also that you mom is an important part of your life, and how connected she is to your sister. That your older brother is pretty much adrift. You're good at showing these relationships.

I'm uneasy that your father, though removed from everyone, has his eye on you all. He still seems to have control of you somehow. Is that how you feel? I mean, besides feeling so alone and wanting to be with Ruben?

I wish there were somewhere you could go and feel Ruben's presence. What does the house in your drawing represent? If it's your old home, is there any chance you could visit it--if you wanted to? Just you?
I wish I was more connected to my mother but it never really was that way, I had my brother, my sister was always the closest to her and my older brother has been isolating from everyone for years already. It feels like now I have noone anymore.
My father is in jail... It turned out to look like an eye by accident but it still feels like he has control over us even though he's in jail.
The picture is not a house... It's more like the night or outer space.
When I want to be more connected to my brother I go to his room, lye on his bed, touch his stuff.. It helps sometimes, sometimes it just hurts.
If it were easier I'd chose to be with Ruben in a heartbeat... but nothing is ever simple

My older brother is 17 and my sister is 12.
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Old Apr 23, 2012, 06:11 PM
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Ok, Alex, it sounds like your family is very disconnected and that happens in a situation where the father is not there in a healthy supportive way and after all your brother demanded a lot of time as he was ill a lot.

Alex, I think your mom was just going along doing her best to raise four children, with one child being sick with such a troubling illness. And often that is such a big demand on a parent and they can kind of even become a bit distant as they are just trying to work through the motions of keeping things all together somehow.

Well, your mother was on a kind of schedule of maintaining her ability to just keep trying to address Reubens illness and then your father was this big challenger to her as well. Then you all lost Reuben and the pattern your mother had all fell apart. And I am sure she doesn't have a clue in how to pick up the pieces here. It really isn't like all of a sudden we are just grownups and know how deal with all of this. I am sure you mother is very overwhelmed and very lost Alex.

Now this doesn't mean she doesn't love you Alex. I have a feeling that she is just plain lost right now, and emotionally lost as well. I hope she is working with a therapist, you all should be working with a therapist to deal with what has been going on in your family. Alex, I bet your mother is scared right now. And I wouldn't be surprised if she also has a short temper and is also depressed. You ALL have been through a lot.

I am sorry you feel so alone right now Alex. This is going to take some time for all of you to work through. That is why I suggested you at least tell your mother you love her without putting the demand on her to sort things out for you right now. I have a feeling she doesn't know how to help herself, let alone you and your brother and sister. And I am sure that she is angry too that she is left with all of this to sort out.

Just give this time Alex, and if you can reach out to the councelor at school and see if you can find a way to get more help, that would be a good thing for you to do. You all need help to be honest. But at least reach out on your own as well.

Keep coming and talking to us Alex, we are here to listen and keep sending you lots of hugs.

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*also offers shoulder to lean on and another open ear to listen and care*... I am so sorry Alexrawr that you are going through all of this...
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I guess i better start at the beginning. I'm still way nervous about writing this but here it goes anyway.
I'm not sure where the fine line between abuse and punishing is. It seems some people say hitting is always wrong and other people say you need to hit your kids sometimes.
As long as I remember our parents were into the last one. My mother not so much but she would tell my dad about it if we did something wrong and then he would hit us anyway.

When we were 3 or 4 he would just pull us over his knee and hit us a few times but when we got older he would also make us do other stuff.
He would embaress us by pulling down our pants and putting us over his knee to hit us when other kids were over up to about 9 years old.
He makes us drink a glass of soapwater or big spoon of sambal. He has a lot of belts and he either uses the one he is wearing or makes us get one and give it to him and then we have to take our shirt or pants off and he hits us with it. Same with making us get twigs or kitchen stuff like the big wooden spoons. He has ropes in the bikeshed too.
It always leaves bruises but no broken skin or anything unless he's drunk then he can't control himself. Thankfully he is not drunk very often. But theres not a week that goes by that he doesnt hit us all atleast once.
Most of it is done in secrecy, he doesnt want our mom to know most of the time. Now that im sick he dont hit me as much but now my twinbrother gets most of it I feel really bad about that.
That really is a tough story.
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Old Dec 08, 2013, 04:19 AM
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Sometimes my father comes in my room. This is also when the nightmares started.
I remember when i was 5 he would come in to my room and lay down next to me and he would put his hand in my underwear and touch me. And he would look at me in the shower and help me soap up.
And one day i broke a glass by accident and he dragged me upstairs by my ear, i was 6 i think. He pulled down my pants and put me over his knee and whipped me with a haircomb. And then he put his own pants down and told me to take his p***s in my hands i was scared and confused and hurting and when i didn't do what he asked me to do he took my shirt off and whipped me with his belt. Then he put his thing in my mouth. From then on he kept doing these things and sometimes if he was going to punish me he let me chose my punishment, a whipping or these other things. But usually he then did what he wanted anyway.
It was about a week after he put his thing in my mouth that he made me lie down on my stomach with my pants off. I expected another beating because i had pushed my sister that morning and she'd cried as if i had tried to kill her. My mother had already put me over her knee but my dad always would hit us too. Well i did get another beating, with a belt this time. But then after he was finished whipping me he put his own pants down so i was getting up because i thought i had to put it in my mouth, but he pushed me back and put a few fingers in my b..t and then he put himself on top of me... i was in much pain already but this hurted so much more. He had put his hand over my mouth though otherwise i would have probably screamed loud enough to be heard by the entire house.
He then laughed and got up it had been maybe 5 minutes but it had felt like hours to me. He dragged me to the shower and yelled at me 'Look what you made me do to you! Can't you be a good kid for once!' And he made me promise not to tell anyone otherwise he would have to do it to that person too. And then he told me to strip down and get in the shower and yelled at me some more and left the shower.
I didn't get any dinner because he had told my mother i had been rude to him when we were upstairs. She told me i should feel lucky he 'only pulled me over his knee for a minute' and ordered me to help her cook the food i wasnt getting any from. Thankfully my sister and twinbrother sneaked some food upstairs cause they felt bad for me.
Even now we're much older he still does these things to me and he regularly pulls us over his knee and stuff. He don't touch my sister and older brother much though. I guess cause my sister is the 'baby' and the only girl and my older brother is getting stronger then my father. Now that im sick he mostly hits my twinbrother but he does these other things to me still. It makes me feel ... idk.. dirty i guess. And ashamed.
When i failed the schoolyear he did hit me though that still hurted two weeks later. I should have tried harder but i missed so much school they said, they couldnt pass me.
I know it isnt normal but he claims he has to do it cause i put him under so much pressure all the time. And because im sick all the time i have to repay him for lost time and money and stuff because they have to do so much for me and there's a lot of stuff they cant do cause of me. I feel like im such a burden sometimes maybe they are better of without me. But then my brother would be alone.
RIP Ruben.

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Old Dec 08, 2013, 01:17 PM
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I guess i better start at the beginning. I'm still way nervous about writing this but here it goes anyway.
I'm not sure where the fine line between abuse and punishing is. It seems some people say hitting is always wrong and other people say you need to hit your kids sometimes.
As long as I remember our parents were into the last one. My mother not so much but she would tell my dad about it if we did something wrong and then he would hit us anyway.

When we were 3 or 4 he would just pull us over his knee and hit us a few times but when we got older he would also make us do other stuff.
He would embaress us by pulling down our pants and putting us over his knee to hit us when other kids were over up to about 9 years old.
He makes us drink a glass of soapwater or big spoon of sambal. He has a lot of belts and he either uses the one he is wearing or makes us get one and give it to him and then we have to take our shirt or pants off and he hits us with it. Same with making us get twigs or kitchen stuff like the big wooden spoons. He has ropes in the bikeshed too.
It always leaves bruises but no broken skin or anything unless he's drunk then he can't control himself. Thankfully he is not drunk very often. But theres not a week that goes by that he doesnt hit us all atleast once.
Most of it is done in secrecy, he doesnt want our mom to know most of the time. Now that im sick he dont hit me as much but now my twinbrother gets most of it I feel really bad about that.
This was Ruben's first post here - the one above this post was the second.
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