Cops called on me

I'm sorry to say that the police are getting more and more violent in their handling of everyone, not just mental health cases.

I'm sorry you had this experience.

Edit to add, I was taken to the ground by five police officers because I objected to being handcuffed. I was not threatening them in any way. I was perfectly calm.

I told them I could not breathe (I have a heart/lung condition). They did not care. They kept pressing down on me and would not turn me on my side.

I thought I was going to suffocate to death. It was terrifying.

No I havent spoken with her. She left a voicemail saying they told her I could go be assessed and she hoped...she doesn't know what she hopes, but that I can go be assessed if that's what I need.

Since none of this other stuff seems to be working out for you, can you think of another option to help you keep yourself safe?

Is there a person, place or thing (other than your therapist, the hospital and/or the po-po & jail) where you can go and keep yourself safe until this current crisis passes?

Or is there someone you can call to come sit and be with you at your place until you feel a bit safer with and about yourself?

I hope you get some relief soon, and are able to do so without harming yourself or getting arrested and/or forced into a situation you won't have any say so over.

That will only make your situation even worse.

Sincerely,
Pfrog!

Trying to convince my friend to let me come over and practice drawing her naked. She's. It going for it lol.

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At least at the place I work there are a couple of reasons you might get that response. We never tell people on the phone that we have a bed available. Most likely people are supposed to be discharged. However until the minute they walk out the door there is no guarantees. Things can change in a moment.

Or there are multiple intake workers and they aren't sure what the others might be working on.

Also with rare exceptions all our patients come through the emergency room. They have to be medically cleared.

She'll probably go for be coming over and us making smoothies and enchiladas and relaxing tho. Maybe paint something. She hates my negativity so I have to check it at the door.

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It might be good to leave it at the door for a while ... I still have to work on that myself ... Sometimes I can get my self so stirred up and over-wrought that I literally have to firmly tell myself out loud to STOP IT! ... I can only imagine what a handful I've been to others when I'm throwing myself headlong into a self-destructive phase ... I wish you the best in getting through this with as little damage to yourself and others as possible.

Idk that does all sound awful but it's either that or continuing to be home and in danger of losing your life.

Yea you're right, and I understand that. But most times if they know absolutely right this second they have no beds, it's not hard to just say NO so I can call elsewhere.

I mean yes I can totally call 911 and get them To put me on a three day hold and force them to take me but that involves me in handcuffs and other unpleasantness best avoided.

I've done it before to call and 8 out if ten times they say yes or no and start the assessment papers on the phone til I get there. If someone's about to kill themselves it's not prudent to say sorry come on over and find out if we can keep you or transfer you out. To me that's ********. I hang up on those people and find someplace else.

Also once I went straight there (as they told me to) even tho I said I had hurt myself and they were mad I didn't go to eR first for stitches.

I once had ankle surgery and was in a hard cast and was suicidal. You know these morons and their "policies" told me sure I can come but I'd have to stop off at the ER first to get my cast cut off bc it wasn't allowed on unit. three days post major surgery. If people can't have common sense to see the bigger picture then why bother with them? It's reflective of the service they're likely to provide.

I have little patience for idiots when I'm entrusting my welfare to them.

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But anyway last time I was voluntarily checking myself in I got lost and had to call 911 for directions. They wanted me to park and leave my car so they could come get me. I didn't want my car towed so they stayed on with me till I arrived but they had the cops call the hospital and put a three day hold on me too. That's an option. I still get there myself but can get cops to call in a hold and cut thru red tape and waste nobody's time.

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Okay that is awful. At our hospital you start at the ER for a quick assessment and then taken to the psych er (they are side by side). If you meet criteria for admission just huge urges to SI is sufficient to get admitted. If we don't have a bed a person is given the choice of staying in the psych er or be transferred to another facility.

I am sorry it is so hard for you to get the services you need. Sounds like they have ridiculous policies in your area.

As far as the cast goes what do they do with the elderly or disabled people who needs a cane? Crazy..

It's not usually this hard I guess they were just busy this week. Normally I call they say yes and I show up an hour later easy peasy. As for the cast, they were being really idiotic and had to call three supervisors to get clearance for me to be in I it AND once there they took away my crutches and took 24 hours to get me a wheelchair which was too big to fit in the doorway of my bedroom and bathroom but still refused. Me my crutches. I have never been so furious in my life re hospital treatment. To top it off they referred me to AA for my drug and alcohol problem, saying I came in high. I had come from ER due to needing stitches and had blood work and all that was in my blood was prescribed Percocet from my surgery and Xanax for my anxiety and they argued me down I was on cocaine and alcohol til I asked to see my blood test then suddenly oops sorry we made a mistake.

The problem here is that only the ****** county run hospital is attached to the psych ward. It is not a place you want to go.

All the quality (and I use this term very loosely bc they all suck in different ways) are NOT side by side with medical facilities. They stand alone and if you need medical clearance an ambulance is called and you have to be discharged to them and then read mitted afterwards which is a hassle. It's why I go directly to them unless I need stitched up.

In which case I go to a tiny local hospital that NEVER EVER keeps me. Ever. They only have 6 beds and they always stitch and release leaving me free to go choose the psych hospital is like to go to IF I'd like to go there at all. I once got stitched there and told them I was going to kill myself and they discharged me with a Percocet script lol.

Great doctoring!

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One time, my nightmare of a sister sped out of our driveway yelling that she was going to kill herself after my dad called the police because she was breaking things in the house. The cops found her at a friend's house, and she told them she never threatened to kill herself. They told her numerous people had heard it, so her choices were either to go to the hospital or wait while they had her sisters drive up and testify that she was threatening to kill herself.

She went to the hospital, told the doctor "I never said that. Dunno why they're all lying about me," and the doctor released her. I had audio proof of her running around the house yelling "I'm going to f----ing kill myself. I swear, I will drive your car into the lake," and they still let her go because she said "Nuh uh, they're liars."

I wish society would quit pretending it cares so much about the well-being of suicidal people. There's all this hoopla about how there's so much help out there for you, but when someone actually presents with a need for help, the doctors are like, "Meh.We don't have time to deal with this." Or, when they do take a case seriously, they go overboard and treat the person like a terrorist rather than a human being who needs understanding. I'm super over hearing the stories.

yep. thats pretty accurate. but it also depends a lot on the dr. the ones who natively speak english are more likely to let you go. the foreign ones cant understand you anyway and keep your *** as long as they can, and cannot be reasoned with. sorry if that sounds racist but its my experience.

This is true. I had an emergency appointment when I had a serious plan and my T called my psychiatrist and he called the hospital, told me where to put me, and that he will be my doctor for the time I'm there. I went home, packed my stuff and my partner drove me there. Their response: "oh we've been waiting for you!" With friendly voices and smiles. I was very distraught and teary. I believe hospitals ARE more compliant when a patients personal clinicians and practitioners are involved.

My psychiatrist has hospital privileges. She admitted me a few times. The admission process was so much easier then going through the ER, where you have to see the ER physician before seeing the psych nurse and if needed the psychiatrist on call. If I ever need hospitalization, I can request it. I'd rather do that than go to the ER, where I would have to talk to strangers who know nothing about me and my history.

If your psychiatrist is affiliated with the hospital the staff will treat you with a lot more respect. Trust me.

Can you get a psychiatrist who has hospital privileges?

I don't think so. I just got a new one tho so I'll ask her.

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Can you ask her for help?

I'm worried that if you go to the ER you will end up disappointed or possibly hurt by their abrasiveness or indifference towards you. Do you have any other options to stay safe until you can talk to your therapist or psychiatrist?

I agree. I think my psychiatrist is on the board, where I stayed. He made sure I was treated well and I got to see him every day. It was miserable being there, but safe. All of the nurses were very kind.

There's no way in hell I would go to the ER so that isn't a Concern.

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