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Well my session today is supposed to be over the phone, hopefully the person will call in.
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Old Jul 08, 2022, 12:39 PM
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Since I was almost hospitalized in the psych hospital again last month, I looked into getting a Psychiatric Advance Health Care Directive so that I could have my Dad or my Sister act as my agent if I am deemed unable to make decisions about my care. So I contacted a lawyer and told her what I wanted. She asked for $350 up front via Zelle so I sent it to her. Then I sent her the requested information. A few hours later, I get a Durable Power of Attorney for Finances. I was like, what's this? This isn't what I was expecting. It didn't have anything in there about health care or psychiatric care. So I replied to the woman and was like, um, I don't think this is what I requested. I told her I was heading to bed for the night and if she had questions about what I wanted we could talk in the morning. When I got up in the morning, I checked my email on the phone and there was an Advance Health Care Directive that covers medical and psychiatric stuff. With nothing filled out. I probably could have saved myself the $350 and found it online somewhere. Although finding one that was CA specific might have been a bit harder but anyway, so now I have that to fill out. But then I was wondering about the financial one and trying to figure out if I needed that one. So I am asking several people that I know and trust what they think. The lawyer lady said I needed it. So complicated. I just wanted someone to be able to make decisions for me if I am in the psych hospital and they don't think I can take care of myself. Now I have like 42 pages of a Health Care Directive and 20 something pages of a financial directive. I am in way over my head.
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Old Jul 08, 2022, 01:10 PM
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Since I was almost hospitalized in the psych hospital again last month, I looked into getting a Psychiatric Advance Health Care Directive so that I could have my Dad or my Sister act as my agent if I am deemed unable to make decisions about my care. So I contacted a lawyer and told her what I wanted. She asked for $350 up front via Zelle so I sent it to her. Then I sent her the requested information. A few hours later, I get a Durable Power of Attorney for Finances. I was like, what's this? This isn't what I was expecting. It didn't have anything in there about health care or psychiatric care. So I replied to the woman and was like, um, I don't think this is what I requested. I told her I was heading to bed for the night and if she had questions about what I wanted we could talk in the morning. When I got up in the morning, I checked my email on the phone and there was an Advance Health Care Directive that covers medical and psychiatric stuff. With nothing filled out. I probably could have saved myself the $350 and found it online somewhere. Although finding one that was CA specific might have been a bit harder but anyway, so now I have that to fill out. But then I was wondering about the financial one and trying to figure out if I needed that one. So I am asking several people that I know and trust what they think. The lawyer lady said I needed it. So complicated. I just wanted someone to be able to make decisions for me if I am in the psych hospital and they don't think I can take care of myself. Now I have like 42 pages of a Health Care Directive and 20 something pages of a financial directive. I am in way over my head.

Kit, you could probably talk to the attorney about what exactly it means and what you need to fill out. But I would check to see what the $350 covers, to make sure it would still cover talking to her about this. I am wondering, too, if the $350 includes her signing it, which might be needed to make it a legally binding order? In other words, the $350 was likely for more than simply sending you the forms. But I would ask before talking to her, so that she won't be billing you more.

And for the financial directive, maybe that's needed in case you're hospitalized for, say, a few weeks, so that your father (or whoever you put on it) could take care of your bills, like access your bank accounts if needed, etc.? I really don't know--just speculating.

I imagine this is something that Stopdog could maybe help with....
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Kit, you could probably talk to the attorney about what exactly it means and what you need to fill out. But I would check to see what the $350 covers, to make sure it would still cover talking to her about this. I am wondering, too, if the $350 includes her signing it, which might be needed to make it a legally binding order? In other words, the $350 was likely for more than simply sending you the forms. But I would ask before talking to her, so that she won't be billing you more.

And for the financial directive, maybe that's needed in case you're hospitalized for, say, a few weeks, so that your father (or whoever you put on it) could take care of your bills, like access your bank accounts if needed, etc.? I really don't know--just speculating.

I imagine this is something that Stopdog could maybe help with....
Thank you LT. The lawyer said she did not have to sign it. I have to get it notarized though in order to make it legal and then give copies to my GP, my Pdoc, my Dad, my Sister, whatever. I would probably carry one with me in case I end up at the ER or something.

As for the financial one, I'm a little more skeptical. I could just give my Dad a list of my accounts and passwords and due dates and since he would likely have possession of my phone since I have never been allowed it during a hospital stay, he could just make the bill payments online. My mom is technically on my checking account--but I do want to change that to my Dad and sister since my Mom has memory issues, and doesn't deal with things like bills anymore. My mom is also allowed access to my investment accounts and I have beneficiaries on all my life insurance policies and stuff. But I don't know. Maybe it would be good to have. I'm just a bit overwhelmed by it all at the moment to be rather frank.

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Also, regarding the money to charity, I don't know about religious guidelines for that, aside from the tithing thing that I think is for Catholics (I'm very technically Catholic, but have been to like 2 masses in my life, I think, one of which preceded a wedding). I want to say tithing is 10%, but I may be wrong.

I wonder if you could give back in other ways so that you could save some of your money? I know you already do some volunteer work, but could you do some more of that in place of the money? It wouldn't even have to be stuff you could do in person--you work in payroll, right? I wonder if there are any sort of services using your job skills that you could provide for the church or people in the congregation or community? Like I served as secretary for our local public health association for a couple years and was in charge of their Facebook page and some other communications (all volunteer). Or else could you help to raise money for a cause, without it being your money? Help organize an event that's also a fundraiser? Just throwing some stuff out there so that you could be giving back while still having enough money for your own needs.

Also, regarding giving gift cards and things like to your coworkers--are you familiar with the Love Languages? One of them is gift-giving, so it could be that's yours, so you express your appreciation (or love) by giving gifts. Whereas others might use words (words of affirmation) or doing something for the other person in return (acts of service). The other thought is that maybe you don't feel valuable enough in some way, so you're using money in a sense to try to make up for that? Those seem like good things to talk to your T about. And in terms of the financial aspect/charity, could it be something you address with either your pastor or pastor's wife, in addition to your T?
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I'm having a virtual session with Dr. T in a little over a half hour--the last one before he has a week off. I'm really uncertain what to talk about, as we've been addressing a lot of therapeutic relationship stuff lately, but it feels to risky to have those sorts of discussions right before a break, in case there's a misunderstanding. I have a tendency to withdraw/be rather distant the session before a vacation, and I don't think that serves me well either. As then I might just end up talking about surface stuff, which I don't really want to do.

A natural topic would be my health, as I just got my blood work back from my physical, which I'd been worried about, and it was all fine. Even my Vitamin D was in normal range, which is hasn't been for years (I suppose supplements and spending time in the sun do in fact help....I know, shocking!). But I don't want to think "OK, my numbers are fine, going to continue as I am!" Because I know I need to make changes. So that's a topic that would be useful to me, but also not particularly risky in terms of "we could have a conflict, then I won't see him for 10 days." Perhaps I'll go with that? Really wish I was seeing him in person....

I do see his backup, R, twice next week (in person), so that helps.
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Well my session today is supposed to be over the phone, hopefully the person will call in.

I also hope that you hear from your T and that it's helpful! It seems really frustrating to never be sure if you'll actually hear from them....
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Old Jul 08, 2022, 01:31 PM
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I'm having a virtual session with Dr. T in a little over a half hour--the last one before he has a week off. I'm really uncertain what to talk about, as we've been addressing a lot of therapeutic relationship stuff lately, but it feels to risky to have those sorts of discussions right before a break, in case there's a misunderstanding. I have a tendency to withdraw/be rather distant the session before a vacation, and I don't think that serves me well either. As then I might just end up talking about surface stuff, which I don't really want to do.

A natural topic would be my health, as I just got my blood work back from my physical, which I'd been worried about, and it was all fine. Even my Vitamin D was in normal range, which is hasn't been for years (I suppose supplements and spending time in the sun do in fact help....I know, shocking!). But I don't want to think "OK, my numbers are fine, going to continue as I am!" Because I know I need to make changes. So that's a topic that would be useful to me, but also not particularly risky in terms of "we could have a conflict, then I won't see him for 10 days." Perhaps I'll go with that? Really wish I was seeing him in person....

I do see his backup, R, twice next week (in person), so that helps.
I do hope your session goes well, LT. I always found the session before and after a vacation or break to be difficult as well. I didn't want it to be too deep or too fraught with potential upsets.

I get what you are saying about your health. I got a good report from my labs and I was like yeah! But I know I am still overweight and need to do some stuff about that.

I hope the backup T is helpful as well! And in person! That's great!

I hope whatever you choose to talk about will be helpful and that you will feel good about the session.

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Also, regarding the money to charity, I don't know about religious guidelines for that, aside from the tithing thing that I think is for Catholics (I'm very technically Catholic, but have been to like 2 masses in my life, I think, one of which preceded a wedding). I want to say tithing is 10%, but I may be wrong.

I wonder if you could give back in other ways so that you could save some of your money? I know you already do some volunteer work, but could you do some more of that in place of the money? It wouldn't even have to be stuff you could do in person--you work in payroll, right? I wonder if there are any sort of services using your job skills that you could provide for the church or people in the congregation or community? Like I served as secretary for our local public health association for a couple years and was in charge of their Facebook page and some other communications (all volunteer). Or else could you help to raise money for a cause, without it being your money? Help organize an event that's also a fundraiser? Just throwing some stuff out there so that you could be giving back while still having enough money for your own needs.

Also, regarding giving gift cards and things like to your coworkers--are you familiar with the Love Languages? One of them is gift-giving, so it could be that's yours, so you express your appreciation (or love) by giving gifts. Whereas others might use words (words of affirmation) or doing something for the other person in return (acts of service). The other thought is that maybe you don't feel valuable enough in some way, so you're using money in a sense to try to make up for that? Those seem like good things to talk to your T about. And in terms of the financial aspect/charity, could it be something you address with either your pastor or pastor's wife, in addition to your T?
Lots of good thoughts here, LT.

In my denomination it is also 10% but that is the minimum. One is encouraged to give as much as possible or as Pastor J says "Give til it hurts, and then give some more!" So my thinking is very much tied up with that sort of mindset and it is a bit difficult sometimes, thinking for oneself about things. Plus naturally, of course, one wants to do good.

I'm not sure I can volunteer more than I am already doing, time wise, with my commitments to after care and therapy and stuff. I've done some online fundraising for one of my charities and that has been somewhat successful and also very stressful! And at the end of the month I am volunteering many hours for a week of children's camp at my Church. It's after work on Wed, Thurs, and Fri, and then all day Saturday and Sunday morning.

Yes, I am familiar with the love languages and I do think mine is gift giving, with words of affirmation being a close second. It's hard when you don't know what the other person's love language is though!

Might bring some of this up in Spiritual Direction next week. We'll see. I think I have some more pressing things to talk to T about but it can definitely go on the back burner for now.

Thanks for the answer and advice! Appreciate you!
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I do hope your session goes well, LT. I always found the session before and after a vacation or break to be difficult as well. I didn't want it to be too deep or too fraught with potential upsets.

I get what you are saying about your health. I got a good report from my labs and I was like yeah! But I know I am still overweight and need to do some stuff about that.

I hope the backup T is helpful as well! And in person! That's great!

I hope whatever you choose to talk about will be helpful and that you will feel good about the session.

Crossing fingers and sending hugs. Kit

Thanks, Kit, I really appreciate the good thoughts! Also glad you got a good lab report.

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It was, the reason it was over the phone is because the air conditioning was broken at the office.
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Hi Kit,

I appreciate what your pastor is saying, and yet....when giving has potential to put you in a position of hardship, maybe it's time to look at it again?

There's something slightly punitive to me about the way they've phrased it.

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I appreciate what your pastor is saying, and yet....when giving has potential to put you in a position of hardship, maybe it's time to look at it again?

There's something slightly punitive to me about the way they've phrased it.

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I texted my T:
"Anxiety! Anxiety! Anxiety!"
Okay, so I didn't really give her much to go on. I need to work on asking for what I need. Only, I don't know what I need. For her to wave her magic wand and take the anxiety away!
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Not sure how that is remotely helpful.
I already took anxiety medication this morning but it barely made a dent. I did some breathing techniques which helped mildly. I ended up taking half of an Olanzapine. I am supposed to be taking Lybalvi but you can't cut those in half! And one whole one is way too strong! Olanzapine is part of what makes up Lybalvi and I had some left over so I took half of an Olanzapine. In my fax to my pdoc when I sent him my symptoms, I asked to go back on Olanzapine, because I can cut it in half. Lybalvi makes me pass out for 12-14 hours and sleep, and that is no kind of quality of life. Plus it seems to stick around in my system and make me feel out of it. I cannot tolerate that medicine. I hope the Olanzapine does the trick. The good thing is that I got an alert on my phone that said that the Calmigo was delivered to my house. So I can try that out tonight!
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'I'm sorry you're feeling like that, but it's here. What can you do?'
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L's not moving!!! Her H is going to be assigned here!...permanently!
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Wow, Lost! You are good at reframing! I would never have come up with that from her response!
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Just my take on it. Could be wrong, but it reads to me like she's trying to help you stay in your window of tolerance. She acknowledged your feelings, reflected them back to you and then offered something that might help... sitting with it.
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My wife has gotten interested in effective altruism and evidence based giving, like Give Well. There is a calculator on The Life You Can Save that suggests how much to give based on your income. Ten percent is a much larger hardship at lower income levels than higher ones, and I am skeptical of people telling you exactly how much you should be donating when they directly benefit from your contributions.
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First off: the thing with the coworker: I think this goes deeper than I had originally thought/understood when I bought her the gift card. My only thoughts I had when I was buying for her was that she helped me out and I took time away from her schedule and wanted to know that she was appreciated.


A friend of mine sort of challenged me to go deeper with it so I have been trying to analyze it a bit more. I think if this was a coworker that I got along with well, I might not have gotten the gift card. A verbal thank you or a thank you email might have sufficed. But I have also given gift cards to coworkers that I get along well with so I'm not sure that I was trying to "make up" for not getting along well with her. I'm not sure. I frequently buy my coworkers a coffee or lunch or something. (I mean, not all of them, but the ones I come into regular contact with). But they also reciprocate, so it's okay. This coworker works in NY and I work in CA so we don't really have a reciprocal relationship like that but it felt right in my heart at the time that I gave her the gift card. Only later when a friend questioned me about it, did I think, oh did I do something wrong? BTW, I still don't have an answer to that.


Secondly, about charity and donations and so forth. Yeah, I spend a lot of money on charity and donations and stuff like that and I am not saving enough for myself. I have been contemplating whether I should step back some from some of my commitments to charity and what that says about me as a person. It is coming in direct odds with my religious beliefs which is hard for me because it's a core part of who I am and how I identify with the world around me. On the other hand, I can see that I am suffering in some areas because I'm giving a significant portion of my income away. It's something I am currently wrestling with and I haven't come up with a good answer.


Thank you for your care and concern for me. I appreciate it!
Hugs! I'm glad about the co-workers being reciprocal.

As for donations and charity, I can definitely see where you're coming from, due to how giving is a really important value for you. Especially when religious beliefs reinforce your generous spirit.

You are a kind and giving person, and it's not tied to the amount you donate/gift. You offer plenty of caring here, and that's also valuable.

My parents come from a denomination where 10% is the minimum too and they have high income so it wasn't a hardship for them.

However there's some churches in my region who take it to an extreme who preach that the more you give financially even if it cuts deeply into your needs, the more you'll be blessed: it harms a lot of low income people, while the pastors are multimillionaires living extremely luxurious lives.

Not saying your church is like that or most churches, and I'm not trying to pressure you into doing anything you don't want to do.

What I wrote was sparked by my own process in my therapy and I noticed the pattern of kindness you have.

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Kit: I do think that is kind of a strange response to your text. I wouldn't know what to do with it either, lol.

Scarlet: Yay! I am so happy for you

I am having SO much anxiety right now because I just emailed my (trauma) T that I was very sad when she announced she would be away next week. I am deep in a shame spiral. The waiting this weekend for a response is going to be so terrible. I feel so incredibly needy and way Way too much for her. ;(
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LonesomeTonight, SlumberKitty
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Quietmind 2, ScarletPimpernel
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