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Old Jul 11, 2023, 04:18 AM
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@Soupe du jour I am sorry to read about your sisters husband, but glad that you now have found a way to communicate without his interference!
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Hello! I am not doing so well as I hoped. The end of week one was not good, and week two has started at the same way as week one ended.

I desperately need somebody to talk too, so that is why I am into "the Check -In" thread now.

The program I am using is generally based on being in the now and to try to shift focus when thoughts drift (and they do a lot). I think I have already told that I also try to do relaxation exercises, physical exercises, try to eat healthy, try to have a social life and so on and in general try to find a balance between rest and work activities

Well, I find myself sitting here staring into a wall as if I am some sort of unmovable statue. My memory is troubled and I feel that nothing helps. I call myself a fool and that is not good. To call oneself "a fool" is like a feeding tube for depression in general.

I hope you will not overlook my post because nothing big and scary has happened! To be in the start of a mental training program can be scary enough. It is hard to do so.

It does not help to make a six week plan if I don't follow it. For the most part it is drifting thoughts or failing to eat that disturbs the process. I try the best I can, but have failed for some days now and feel desperate.

You can say that why does it have to be six weeks, can't it be seven or five? The reason I count six weeks is that that is what I have experienced earlier, that repetition of the combinations of tools I know work for me takes six weeks to settle down; to become a daily habit that guides me through my days and helps me to become almost "depression-free". Less then six weeks will not strengthen the bonds that need to be strengthened in my brain, but of course I can put on an extra week if I feel the need for it. May be I'll do that in the end, but now I need to work against depression from where I am now ...

I decided to come here and talk and at the same time I decided what to do for the rest of the day: Repeating tools, do relaxation exercises, do work in the home, go for a walk, make dinner and rest. The evening is free to see a movie or read if my concentration span can take it.

I think we all can earn some health if we come here to get support at using our unique tools.

Thank you for reading!

I send good wishes for the health of everyone here!

Hi Rosi. First off, thanks for your kind response to my thread, and good wishes to you, as well.

The program you describe sounds very good. I like how it includes an emphasis on what I believe is "mindfulness" in CBT/DBT. Your ideas for activities are good ones for that. I find when I need to focus my "world" on positives, nature helps about the best. I love birds and gardening. Observing in all ways (visual, auditory, and in some cases touch) is soothing for me. Seeing new things is also good. I also enjoy cooking. It particularly focuses my attention. They both provide a bit of exercise. I haven't been up to doing intense exercise, but for now that's OK. I hope you won't be hard on yourself if you achieve only some of what you plan.

I try to live "in the moment" as much as possible. Also part of mindfulness.


You are not a fool, Rosi. That's called "labeling" in CBT. You have some many positive attributes that I've observed even here on a forum. Please remind yourself of those many things. In addition, I think it's been helpful for me to simply be "an observer" in the world. I'm a person who absorbs the beauty of certain sounds (music, bird song, clothes washer swishing, breezes), is rewarded by the sight of trees. It's fine to just "be". Or as I walk down a road, my presence plays a part in the song of the world. Do you know what I mean?
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Old Jul 11, 2023, 10:14 AM
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Hi Rosi. First off, thanks for your kind response to my thread, and good wishes to you, as well.

The program you describe sounds very good. I like how it includes an emphasis on what I believe is "mindfulness" in CBT/DBT. Your ideas for activities are good ones for that. I find when I need to focus my "world" on positives, nature helps about the best. I love birds and gardening. Observing in all ways (visual, auditory, and in some cases touch) is soothing for me. Seeing new things is also good. I also enjoy cooking. It particularly focuses my attention. They both provide a bit of exercise. I haven't been up to doing intense exercise, but for now that's OK. I hope you won't be hard on yourself if you achieve only some of what you plan.

I try to live "in the moment" as much as possible. Also part of mindfulness.


You are not a fool, Rosi. That's called "labeling" in CBT. You have some many positive attributes that I've observed even here on a forum. Please remind yourself of those many things. In addition, I think it's been helpful for me to simply be "an observer" in the world. I'm a person who absorbs the beauty of certain sounds (music, bird song, clothes washer swishing, breezes), is rewarded by the sight of trees. It's fine to just "be". Or as I walk down a road, my presence plays a part in the song of the world. Do you know what I mean?

Thank you! You sound almost like my father. He could find beauty in a raindrop hanging on branch of a tree and shout out for joy because the sun was reflected so beautifully in the raindrop. Or he could sit down close to an anthill and teach me, when I was a little girl, to look at how wonderful it was to look at the ants while they were working. He was not a professional gardener, but very clever with our garden. He was even able to make plants from other continents to grow in our garden. He planted them inside first, moved them according to how much sun they needed and sat them out in the Summer.

So I use the here and now approach, but I seldom do mindfulness. I like to use other relaxation exercises that really works for me when I use them, especially Autogenic Training, because when one has learned that, one is also able to use self-hypnosis on self-instructions. That is the only relaxation exercise, that I know of, that makes it possible to do hypnosis on oneself.

For the time being I try to do self-hypnosis on forcing myself to use my daily planner. The most important distraction, however, is my own thoughts that for the moment is working on building down what I try to build up. I mean I decide to do so and so, and then inner thoughts disturbs me (like "I am stupid" or other ...).

I am not strong enough at this point to not fall into the trap of pondering around them and then the clock ticks and I feel that I am in lack of time. Then I blame myself for having wasted my time and so it goes into a negative spiral ... May be I should take into account that I am a Diabetic (too high or too low levels of blood glucose) make me tired and tirednes is part of "making room" for negative thoughts. Perhaps I need to be more kind to myself.

I think I do an "all or none" type of thinking or what is called "catastrophe thinking" right now, like if I fail now, I will not reach my goal at six weeks. But if I am persistent enough, hopefully all these negative thoughts will be won over by more positive ones.

Thanks again for your kind words, Soupe. They are appreciated!
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Old Jul 11, 2023, 12:56 PM
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I woke up last night around 10 or so. I don't remember if I got back to sleep or not between 10 and 3. I just remember at 3 I was ready for Prime Day so I could order a pair of wireless bluetooth earbuds. Then I dozed off until 6:30.

I had to take my cat to the vet. The other one. He weighs almost 16 pounds and the vet says he needs to weigh 14 pounds. So she told us to cut back on his food and to bring him back to be weighed in a month. He also has an ear infection. I was wondering if he was hard of hearing. He doesn't seem to respond to his name or to other noises the way my other cat does. So they cleaned out his ear and gave us some medicine. No clue how easy it will be to get it in him.

Anyways after paying that large bill I came home. The trip didn't do me any good pain wise. The drive and the standing and carrying the 16 pound cat. I need to get that scan soon.

Overall mental health wise I'm doing good although on Tuesdays I can get slightly down in the dumps. Its not too bad though.

I guess the way to describe how I'm feeling is I feel like I'm going to have a seizure or something. I feel like all weird when I stand up like electric currents are running through me. I took all my meds properly today.

The weird electric feeling passed. Now I just want to puke or **** my guts out. And I'm ****ing exhausted I could sleep all afternoon.

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My appointment went well today. He didn't find anything wrong, thankfully. He called in pain med refills and Zofran. Hopefully it'll help with my excruciating pain. I thought I was going to puke in his office. I AM NEVER GETTING SURGERY AGAIN. I feel like my surgeon kicked my ***.
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@Nammu - I just noticed your previous post about my brother. Yes, they will absolutely be hit with "empty nest" syndrome - especially if their son ever moves far away. I think part of the issue with my brother is that he deeply regrets not pursuing a different education/career and thinks his life is basically over. I really wish he would take some of that huge pile of money he and his wife have accumulated and spend it on himself, on upgrading his computer skills to get into a job or even volunteering. For instance we have an organization in our city that takes old computers and fixes them up and installs free open-source software and gives the computers to schools and low-income people. He would do awesome at that.

@Soupe du jour I do tell him I love him and will absolutely tell him to be kinder to himself. He deserves to spend money on healthy food for himself, and also to get a better job. I remember him teaching himself to program our computer when he was 10 years old-- Delivery Driver is not the best career for him!!!

Also Soupe, I'm glad you and your sister have a way to talk now. It's awful that her husband monitors her. That is abuse. He may have installed programs on her computer or phone that will track her - she should get a professional to see if there is malware on her phone.
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Old Jul 11, 2023, 02:31 PM
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@Rosi700 - that program sounds great, but any such psychological work can trigger us as well and open old wounds. Good for you for doing it. Be kind to yourself always- just as you would be to a friend or sibling.
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Wow! That Diamond painting is soooooo incredible! That’s amazing Chris!

I’m mostly moved in but need to get the pictures on the wall and the decorations arranged. Finally went and bought the hooks for my scarves and rubbing alcohol to attach them to the wall. Still need to hook up my dvd player. Then I can go to the library and get movies to watch. I need to turn in my application for eating meals here. I still haven’t been down to games night yet. I forget when those things are and need to write it down. But by and large things are getting settled.

I find myself in a bit of funk now that the urgency is passed. Last night I was in a rare down moment when I wondered the purpose of my being here. Sir came around to remind me he needs me. Maybe I’ll look into a diamond painting, I’ve looked at them before but didn’t order it. Christina has given me a bit of a shove on that, hers is absolutely beautiful.
I think it’s normal to be in a bit of a funk after the whirlwind of losing Mum then everything that followed. Just be kind to yourself as you adjust to your new routine.

Are you feeling better ???

You might enjoy Diamond Art. I order mine off Temu so they aren’t expensive.
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christina, this is stunning!!
will you frame it?
Thanks so much. I’m not sure if I’ll frame it. I’ll probably look in thrift store for the frame(s) , frames are stupid expensive for these type sizes.

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I think it’s normal to be in a bit of a funk after the whirlwind of losing Mum then everything that followed. Just be kind to yourself as you adjust to your new routine.

You might enjoy Diamond Art. I order mine off Temu so they aren’t expensive.
I bought a sunflower one from Amazon on prime discount. It’s a smaller one so I can try it out. There’s some absolutely gorgeous ones, but, geez. I googled how to do it and it seems patience is the key.
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I bought a sunflower one from Amazon on prime discount. It’s a smaller one so I can try it out. There’s some absolutely gorgeous ones, but, geez. I googled how to do it and it seems patience is the key.
Yay for Prime ! Yea videos make it look complicated but once you start it gets easier.
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Soupe … I’m so sorry your sister is in a abusive relationship and it’s always been so. I’m glad that she’s reaching out privately.

Jane try not to compare yourself to others. I struggle with it sometimes but it’s always driven by my dealing with depression which often is much deeper than I think it is.

Sunflower you’re Doctor sounds dreadful. Honestly I don’t know why someone gets into the medical field and not have compassion for others. I’d defiantly find someone new.

Blue bird ! Glad to hear your keeping busy.

Wild how’s your grandmother ??

Moose ?? Haven’t seen your lately . Are you okay ?

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Our older dog Dexter ( he’s 14) isn’t doing so good . Last night he didn’t eat his dinner which is not normal for him. He’s looking better today but got unsteady on his feet coming up the porch steps. We will have to be with him to help him on the steps now. Pets should live longer.

Otherwise nothing much to say.

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Sorry I do not have the energy to comment to all here, but I want to post something. I found it accidentally while searching for tips to overcome my own depression. The food prices are so high for the time being that I cannot afford therapy.

I have my own program developed over years. But I think I will need to use more time on doing my program now because of different reasons, but especially because of my Diabetes that makes me tired.

I have not decided if I want to be a member at "Depression Bootcamp" for about 10 dollars a month. One can stop being a member when one wants to.

I see that they have some topics that could probably be helpful to me. I don't understand if they mean all kinds of depression, but CBT is CBT if it is used either for this or that type of suffering ...

If there are other people here who think that therapy costs too much, may be they want to try this, so here is the link: Depression Bootcamps Membership
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@Naammu how is your hand doing?
It’s stiff , my ring finger bends funny and I lost dexterity but it doesn’t hurt so I count that as a win. I didn’t call to get the MRI, I figure it’s mostly good. I think the only thing they’d be able to do is PT. So I made myself a little roller thing that I use to practice my dexterity with. If I were 20 years younger I might pursue the issue but I’ll never work again so, ehh. I’ve no where to do pottery and what I do do I can manage with my right hand. Thanks for asking though.
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I don't mean to pry or hijack anyones post, but I looked into diamond art and figured I'd give it a try. I could use something new and Its better then watching CNN on mute and thinking about how bad my pain is.

I also decided to get one of those paint by numbers from Amazon. I got a lion one. It seems very involved but I'm up for the challenge.

I hope the cats can leave these alone. I used to do a lot of jigsaw puzzles before I got them both.
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I tried activity after activity today but i found them all unpleasant. I was especially keen to see the news to hear about the long intense thunderstorm we had. But i couldn't get thru the lead stories. I want to take Wellbutrin so bad and get away from this awful depression. But i know it will just lead to hypomania and outrageous behavior and financial ruin. I'll just have to endure.
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Good morning! I feel better today and more optimistic. I think that to put the spotlight at my Diabetes yesterday helped me to see that it is more complicated to fight depression now then it was before. We had some really hot days a few days ago. My Diabetes does not do well in the heat.

I am up, have had my breakfast and have done my physical exercises for this day. I will soon go through my tools. I have decided to not join the "Depression Bootcamps". I have all the tools I need in my own program. To add new things now will only disturb my ability to focus on my ordinary program.

About 40 years ago (perhaps even more) Autogenic Training was very popular in Europe. Nowadays Europe uses Mindfulness more. I still prefer my well learned AT and add some of the grounding exercises from the Mindfulness approach.

After my relaxation exercises I will do some work in the home before I take a short walk outside.

The wonderful "thing" is that I have no negative self labels this day. The "inner cleaning" from yesterday must have helped me, plus the positive words from @Soupe du jour. It is wonderful that there always is somebody who can say some helping words in this group.

See you all at another day!

May your health in general stay at a manageable level!
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Mountaindewed, those projects you mentioned sound like great ideas! I hope they will help and bring some enjoyment. I have read how such activities can even in some way take the mind away from pain, to a degree.
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I keep hearing about flooding issues in the eastern part of the US. I hope it eases soon. Though I wouldn't want flooding in Czech Republic, I wish we had at least some of that rain. We've been in a drought for a while. If it continues, we may not be permitted to water our shrubs anymore. They were planted only in May, so are in need of sufficient water to root properly and thrive in any way. About 500 were planted. They line ~60% of our property. We've already had to replace about 20 that have died. Some rain is in the forecast, but not a lot. Often it's in the forecast, but doesn't amount to anything.

I haven't heard from my sister. I hope I do soon.

I've started to sleep less lately, but that's good. I've gone from hypersomnia to more normal. Hubby, on the other hand, not. I got him up for breakfast, but he's sleeping again and it's after 10:30 am.

Another positive, for me, is that my appetite has reduced a bit. I'm not consuming weight loss amounts, but at least maintenance ones. I gained 20 lbs (9 kg) since our move from the US to Czech Republic 2 1/2 years ago, 10 lbs (4.5 kg) of which I gained only since our recent move, in March, from the Airbnb to our purchased home.
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I keep hearing about flooding issues in the eastern part of the US. I hope it eases soon. Though I wouldn't want flooding in Czech Republic, I wish we had at least some of that rain. We've been in a drought for a while. If it continues, we may not be permitted to water our shrubs anymore. They were planted only in May, so are in need of sufficient water to root properly and thrive in any way. About 500 were planted. They line ~60% of our property. We've already had to replace about 20 that have died. Some rain is in the forecast, but not a lot. Often it's in the forecast, but doesn't amount to anything.

I haven't heard from my sister. I hope I do soon.

I've started to sleep less lately, but that's good. I've gone from hypersomnia to more normal. Hubby, on the other hand, not. I got him up for breakfast, but he's sleeping again and it's after 10:30 am.

Another positive, for me, is that my appetite has reduced a bit. I'm not consuming weight loss amounts, but at least maintenance ones. I gained 20 lbs (9 kg) since our move from the US to Czech Republic 2 1/2 years ago, 10 lbs (4.5 kg) of which I gained only since our recent move, in March, from the Airbnb to our purchased home.

Oh yeah, it is hot in parts of Europe. In Spain they are not allowed to fill up their swimming pools again. Most of Europe has forbidden to light a fire outside. Even using portable grills are forbidden.

I hope you will have rain at your place soon, so that not all of your plants are destroyed.

Hope you will have contact with your sister soon!

About loosing weight, I don't care about it. Not so that I am really big, but far away form my figure when I was younger. I try to eat healthy because of my Diabetes, not to become slimmer.I don't want society to demand how I shall look. My grandmother was really big, and I loved her the way she was.
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feel depressed.

been trying to help someone with his abuse situation and he threw it back it my face

feel quite upset over it, specially as he was the one who asked for support
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It’s raining! We needed rain. My alarm went off at 7, but I couldn’t push myself to get up and go to aqua fitness. Now I realize it was because it was so dark. Now several hours later I have the lights on and it’s still raining! Yay 😃 we so need this. A bit of lightning but no sever thunder storms, just wonderful rain..
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Old Jul 12, 2023, 12:11 PM
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I'm still in excruciating pain. I took a prescription strength ibuprofen when I got up (800mg) and a Zofran because I was nauseous. Had some crackers and the nausea has gone down. Took a hydrocodone and the pain has become bearable.

I feel bad about having to take the hydrocodone because my surgeon told me he wants me to wean myself off it and only gave me fifteen pills with no refills, but the pain was so bad I couldn't stand it!

I know. BOO HOO.

I'll stop whining now.
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