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Old May 05, 2018, 08:57 PM
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Watch says 20,527 steps, but many were paddle strokes that throws its calculations off. I logged an hour of pretty strenuous paddling and MMW's sibling MMF (MapMyFitness) gave me over 500 calories for it. I also logged 5 miles of walking at 3.8 mph and MMW gave me another 500+ for that. I am not sure I believe these numbers. I walked another 3 miles or so unlogged.

Right now, I am at 2378 calories. I might add an apple at around 60 calories in a few minutes. mfp says I am still 375 short right now. I will weigh in the morning.

EDIT - Had the apple. 62 calories, finished the day at 2440.
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Old May 06, 2018, 03:08 AM
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I have taken a total of 10,483 steps today. I have walked 4.26 miles burning up 460 calories. On my first two mile leg, which was my best for the day, I took less than 15 minutes to go each mile. My average heart rate was 152 bpm peaking at 167 bpm. My average speed was at least 3.8 mph, with going 5.2 mph in one short segment. I got to the point of starting to run. My goal is to be able to run the same route.

So I had an incredible workout for today. I still do not understand how all of this was possible. I will see if I end up getting consistent results for my next exercise day. I am using a chest strap for heart rate, so that should be accurate. I was wet with sweat and exhausted by the end, both of which has not happened to me before. Hours later I am still recovering from my exercise. My legs ache. So something new happened here.

Anyways, including my calories burned with half of the MPF adjustment for daily activity, comes to a goal of 2729 calories. I have consumed 2655 calories. I will meet this goal by eating some additional trail mix.

I am thinking of dropping the adjustment MFP makes to the target calorie count. I will take my resting calories computed by my wrist monitor’s app to calculate what part of the 2090 base line is calories from daily activity. If the adjustment made by MFP is greater than this, then I will start including more calories that makes up my target calorie count that includes exersize.
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What is this type of diet? I loved Ken it up and this sounds interesting to me. Have you or do you know anyone who has tried this diet?
I don't and dont' know anyone who has. It's this theory that there are certain types of food that can and can't be processed by different blood types. for example my wife is basicly vegan or very little meat while i'm mostly meat and avoid things like broccoli and cabbage.
was just wondering if anyone knew anything about it. not going to try it since wife got me going on weight watchers.
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Old May 06, 2018, 09:23 AM
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I don't and dont' know anyone who has. It's this theory that there are certain types of food that can and can't be processed by different blood types. for example my wife is basicly vegan or very little meat while i'm mostly meat and avoid things like broccoli and cabbage.
was just wondering if anyone knew anything about it. not going to try it since wife got me going on weight watchers.
Sounds like woo to me. There are rare specific conditions that can cause those kinds of problems and more common sensitivities and allergies, but they aren't based on blood type. But if someone believes in it, sticks to it and the selection of foods and amounts means they eat less calories than they burn, they will lose weight.
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Old May 06, 2018, 09:31 AM
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The consistency is almost scary at this point. I did some tests with my scale a few days ago stepping on and off with or without a 2 liter bottle to make sure it went up and down 2 pounds. It did (with some minor variances of 0.2 pounds; it only shows even tenth). Anyway, yet another one within a pound of 160 - 160.2. I think I am up to two weeks now of being within a pound of 160 at every weigh in. I still have this small pouch of fat right around the belly button that bugs me as the abdomen above it has hardened some and my chest and shoulders are getting definition back. I may drop another 5 down to 155. There is no guarantee that would make it go away though.
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Old May 06, 2018, 12:03 PM
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I weigh 174 again. Now what to do. I am becoming very thin. Not good at all. I am not ready yet to use an online calculator specifying that I am exersizing three times a week for a new calorie target. My watch should be taking care of the calories burned through exersize. Maybe the watch is understating the calories burned? I know yesterday that I did not count all of my walk due to an interruption.

I looked back a couple weeks. I have been using the MFP adjustment for daily activity for less than a week. This could of made a difference of at least a couple hundred calories or more a day before this time. For the most part, I have been only taking half of this adjustment. So I will now take the full adjustment. Perhaps I will have MFP calculate my calorie requirement for being “lightly active” instead of “sedentary” until I gain a couple pounds back? If I do, and count in exersize, I will have a pretty big calorie requirement in what I eat. Probably over 3000 calories a day. I can bring down this calorie requirement by exersizing less strenuously for now. So this is what I will do until I gain a couple pounds back.

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Old May 06, 2018, 12:38 PM
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@Tucson - Why don't you just ignore the numbers and eat 3000 a day for a week or two? You are down below where you wan to be, so why bother trying to stabilize now? What weight do you want to stabilize at?
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Old May 06, 2018, 12:52 PM
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@Tucson - Why don't you just ignore the numbers and eat 3000 a day for a week or two? You are down below where you wan to be, so why bother trying to stabilize now? What weight do you want to stabilize at?
I would like to stabilize at around 178. This is four pounds more than where I am at right now. That way I can still fit into my new wardrobe. So I agree with you. I am getting a bit “a n a l” over this. I need to gain some weight before I go back to the numbers. I still will need to exersize some in order to keep that extra weight from being entirely fat. So I will cut down on my exersize to two miles every other day. My concern is gaining too much weight, but I apparently know how to lose weight. So over the longer term this should work out.

3000 calories a day. WOW. Here comes the occasional banana cream pie, at least half a slice, and potatoe pancakes. I will also pick up a couple high calorie meals at TJs for this week. I still will continue to track my calories burned and calories consumed just to know where I am at.

PS I am still tired from yesterday.

Update: I have purchased three high calorie meals from TJs. I would of purchased more, but I was concerned about the money. However, it came to only $14. I have done my menu for today. It took some effort to come up with a meal plan that is 3000 calories and still be able to eat all of it. MFP tells me that if every day is like today, I will weigh 181.9 in 5 weeks.

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Old May 06, 2018, 03:44 PM
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Definitely exercise while gaining the weight back. I have been a little fanatical about that lately trying to outrun Father Time. I just saw an article yesterday with a long term study on mortality. Men who had a BMI in the normal/healthy range, don't smoke, exercise regularly, eat healthy and don't drink excessively at age 50 on average live 12.2 years longer. It is obviously too late for the 50 mark, but I can at least do it at 60 without having heart trouble or cancer (which is what the list is about avoiding). All 5 factors; they didn't break it down (at least not in the article).
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Old May 06, 2018, 08:31 PM
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18524 steps. Logged a 4 mile walk, mowing the lawn and part of another walk, though I probably won't eat back the calories from that last part; I only logged about 8/10 of a mile from that anyway.

2487 calories consumed. mfp says I have 141 left, but I am not sure I will eat anything else. Maybe one more piece of fruit at most. I am going to drop my base calories back to 1600 tomorrow and start logging less exercise. I have decided I want to slowly lose another 5 pounds.

EDIT - ate more fruit; fished at 2560, 68 below allotment. Big adjustment coming tomorrow...
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1705 steps for today. No exersize. My calories consumed totals 3018. MFP made virtually no adjustment on calories burned during the day’s activities. My target would normally be 2076. I am below my target weight, so I have increased my actual target to 3000 calories.Tomorrow, I will walk for two miles instead of four. The shrimp dish from TJs was tastey.

@UpDownAround: I have never seen any oil in your food diary. This together with syrup are the two that I find very expensive in relationship to calories consumed. I try to use little oil, and a comparatively small amount of syrup. But I still log both of them. As an aside, the calculation of oil used for a dish is more difficult when there is still oil in the pan.
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Old May 07, 2018, 10:26 AM
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@Tucson - every now and then there is some oil in there, but it is usually on a little. Just bouncing back, 4/26 is the last time. It was for chicken that was sauteed. I only gave it a tsp since it was only a tbs for a few pieces of chicken. On nights when I have Knorr side dishes, there is usually oil or margarine but I use the "as prepared" calories. I don't use oil much. i usually bake chicken. Sometimes I ignore cooking spray because it is such a tiny amount per serving.

EDIT - also sometimes you will see oil and honey listed on a night I have chicken. That's from a marinade I make with equal parts honey, oil and soy sauce with some granulated garlic and onion salt. I kind of guess at how much is left after a lot is left in the bag and a lot is left as pan drippings.
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Old May 07, 2018, 05:01 PM
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@Tucson - every now and then there is some oil in there, but it is usually on a little. Just bouncing back, 4/26 is the last time. It was for chicken that was sauteed. I only gave it a tsp since it was only a tbs for a few pieces of chicken. On nights when I have Knorr side dishes, there is usually oil or margarine but I use the "as prepared" calories. I don't use oil much. i usually bake chicken. Sometimes I ignore cooking spray because it is such a tiny amount per serving.

EDIT - also sometimes you will see oil and honey listed on a night I have chicken. That's from a marinade I make with equal parts honey, oil and soy sauce with some granulated garlic and onion salt. I kind of guess at how much is left after a lot is left in the bag and a lot is left as pan drippings.
I try to estimate was is left. I think I will try different amounts of oil to see what it looks like in my pan. I always use the same pan. Cooking spray is a good idea. I will get a canister. Baking is something I normally do not do. However, for a big, thick chicken breast, that would be the way to do it unless you cut it up in pieces. I will try out that marinade. I usually am too lazy to do stuff like that. I wonder if it works with pork? I have not had pork in many years. If I remember correctly, it is a more mild but sweeter tasting meat. Yes I know it looks wrong to call it “sweeter”, but it is not candy sweet. It is sweeter in a different way. It is a valid way to describe meat.
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The marinade works on just about anything. Chicken I cook at 425 for 20 to 30 minutes depending on how large the pieces are. I line the pan with foil so I don't have to clean it because I dump some extra sauce in.

Light day for me all the way around. Starting on the next round of losing; just 5 pounds should do it.

8695 steps. I didn't log any of it.

1600 calories. I had some broccoli and "real potato" with the chicken for dinner but didn't eat as healthy as I should; had a couple of protein bars in there mostly because I didn't pack a meat for lunch. I want to make sure I get protein and do upper body exercise (did some, will do more before I turn in) to retain muscle. I want to get rid of the little paunch between my belly button and belt and drop a little lower into the healthy BMI zone.
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I have made 7248 total steps. I ate 2864 calories, so I am a little short of my 3000 calorie target. It is hard for me to consume this many calories particularly when I have burned some through exersize..This time I ran out of room in my stomach. I did walk quickly for about 2 miles. This burned 287 calories including an adjustment of 71 calories to cover the calories burned during my daily activities which makes sense to me.
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This morning I weigh 161, continuing the string of weigh ins within a pound of 160. I realized I forgot to log some canned fruit with dinner last night and logged it as part of breakfast. Today will be a lot like yesterday; not much exercise, none logged and a 1600 calorie limit.
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I weigh 175 right now. I was sick the morning, so I made up for it calorie wise by getting a Big Mac, fries, and a chocolate shake. I hope I can continue eating today. I was nauseous this morning, and had stability problems. Then I became light headed and a bit dizzy. I will eat another TJs dish to make up for the calories for not having any breakfast. I hope this is not my meds again.
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OK I ate a whole bag of TJs Kung Pao chicken. So this together with my visit to McDonalds and some snacks gives me about 2700 calories. My stomach is so full, but I need to keep the calories up. It’s tasted so good and I was hungry that I “wolfed” it down quickly before my stomach had a chance to complain. This is what allowed me to total up the calories. I made only 1143 steps today. MFP is giving me a negative adjustment for this. No exersize. I want to take a walk tomorrow for a couple miles. I shall see how I feel tomorrow. The food diary that follows is very close to what I will eat for the day.
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8945 steps, which the watch computes to be 3.94 miles and 412 calories. None of it was logged. 1599 calories. Late tomorrow afternoon, I am going SUP paddling for a couple of hours. I probably should log/eat more tomorrow. I have to watch myself - now that I have decided to lose a little lower, I am antsy about seeing some progress, but I need to be healthy about it.
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Ny fitness watch says 8118 steps, but I didn't take an exercise walk today. That's mostly paddle strokes. I paddled about 5 miles, recording a little over 4 of it, which mfm gave me about 800 calories for. I am not going to eat all of those, but it left me hungry enough that I wasn't just going to eat 1600 either.

I have consumed 2061 calories and may still have another piece of fruit or something before bed. But I am pretty sure it will still be at least a slight deficit for the day. I burned some serious calories paddling.

I weigh in the morning. I doubt it will be much different since I am eatiing a little bulk before bed after a big calorie burn.
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My weight today is 175. I have walked 7,500 steps, out of which 5,965 steps were made during my walk. I have burned 324 calories with a total distance of 3.01 miles. My average heart rate was 143, peaking at 165 bpm. I did a slow run for a short segment of my walk to get my heart rate up. So even though my speed averaged 3.7, my peek speed was 7 mph. So this was another cardio workout. It is getting more difficult to get my heart rate up unless I push myself when I am getting tired, or I start to run.

This exersize with the correction by MFP provided a calorie goal of 2679 calories. Since my actual goal is 3000 calories, I made sure I ate this much, which has turned out to 3178 calories. I am looking forward to find my weekly weight gain with this large calorie count.

I have been trying to numerically assess my physical condition. My watch has what is called a VO2max value for this. However, it is telling me that I have the health of a person well into their seventies. I did not understand this. The formula takes into consideration pace, heart rate, and distance, besides BMI. I saw that one way to improve the score is to walk much less than 15 minute miles. How? I knew this score is off. Then it just occurred to me that I can only do this by runnng. So in order to have a more telling score, I have to be able to run for a distance. So I am going to work on this with a treadmill at my fitness center. I do not want to run my heart out just to find that I have no energy to return home. Once my fitness score is more accurate, my calories burned will also be more accurate.
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