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Old Jun 28, 2021, 08:35 AM
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Is it ASD to not understand human behavior beyond nice and rude, good and bad. The concept of distance and boundaries are too nuanced. That’s why animals don’t understand it either. Luckily for them, no one expects them to.

A flick of geese I was feeding got all aggressive demanding bread from me. When I couldn’t dispense the bread fast enough, one of them repeatedly pecked me hard on my shins. They follow me wherever I go in the park.

A human doing that would get arrested, after being decked in the face
ASD typically makes it difficult to understand human interactions and it’s not always easy to navigate ins and outs. But people with ASD can learn proper behaviors even if it doesn’t come naturally. That’s when therapy, support groups and peer support come handy.

That’s why when we on here or support groups or therapist or doctor advice you that certain behaviors are wrong and you just stop it’s pointless to keep arguing about it or keep doing it. You need to try to stop bad behaviors regardless if you think you shouldn’t. Even if you don’t naturally feel what’s right, you could and should make an effort based on the input
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Old Jun 28, 2021, 08:43 AM
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Have you said you were diagnosed with ASD and BPD in an older post? I am trying to understand more about these diagnoses and how they affect you. It is interesting to see how both of these may be at play in your thoughts and behavior. (Though I feel for you in having these).

Naive question: When you apply for a new job, does the manager tell the new company about your problematic behavior at the old job? Do unsuspecting companies keep hiring problematic employees without a clue?

Although your behavior seem to be disruptive and stressful to you and everyone else at your job, it could be dangerous. Do new companies unknowingly hire dangerous, stalkers because the old manager is not allowed to reveal this important information?
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Old Jun 28, 2021, 08:50 AM
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Have you said you were diagnosed with ASD and BPD in an older post? I am trying to understand more about these diagnoses and how they affect you. It is interesting to see how both of these may be at play in your thoughts and behavior. (Though I feel for you in having these).


Naive question: When you apply for a new job, does the manager tell the new company about your problematic behavior at the old job? Do unsuspecting companies keep hiring problematic employees without a clue?


Although your behavior seem to be disruptive and stressful to you and everyone else at your job, it could be dangerous. Do new companies unknowingly hire dangerous, stalkers because the old manager is not allowed to reveal this important information?
By law in most states the former employer can only confirm dates work, reason for leaving (were the fired for cause, laid off, or quit), position, and I believe pay. They cannot talk about the stalking behaviors, unless there were a legal record, like an arrest or restraining order, in which case it would not be slander, as it's provable. People you list as references can say more because you have given them permission to say more, but simply verifying work history with employers, you would not get that information. People often confuse verification of employment with references.

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Old Jun 28, 2021, 08:58 AM
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Is it ASD to not understand human behavior beyond nice and rude, good and bad. The concept of distance and boundaries are too nuanced. That’s why animals don’t understand it either. Luckily for them, no one expects them to.

A flick of geese I was feeding got all aggressive demanding bread from me. When I couldn’t dispense the bread fast enough, one of them repeatedly pecked me hard on my shins. They follow me wherever I go in the park.

A human doing that would get arrested, after being decked in the face
It can be very ASD to think that way depending on where on the spectrum a person actually is.

You are right, animals do not have the logical thinking mind capability that humans do so they can not be expected to do something their mind has no capability of doing. The human mind had the capability so obviously logical thinking is EXPECTED out of people. Even when a human mind is not functioning as normal minds function, if that person insists in functioning in a situation where people with normal thinking people function then the normal thinking & behavior is expected out of them too.

Interesting with my animals, even my wild raccoons & huge horse....they all respect my space because they learned & I have taught them to interface with me & respect my space. I communicate with my animals at a totally different level than many people do & they respond way beyond ways most animals respond to people. But even with animals my interface with them is that of mutual RESPECT & I am sure their personalities are part of what makes my interface with them so good.....besides they all know my boundaries & we thrive together
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Old Jun 28, 2021, 08:59 AM
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Ruby, I'm not an advocate of masking or ABA therapy. I interact with too many Autism Advocates in my role as a patient advocate to support that. But the fact is these problems don't sound like ASD to me. Your fixation and infatuation with the GM is not about their behavior as a human and understanding that. Your fixation started well before they left the store. And your bad behavior all stems from this infatuation. You said you were diagnosed with BPD, and I think your issues arise out of that comorbidity. You seem prone to mood swings based on the behaviors of others, and that sounds like BPD to me, and the point is you need to follow up with a formal diagnosis so you can get the right help. You need professional help to help you navigate understanding which behaviors are appropriate for work and which are not.

You need to accept that understanding human behaviors takes time (for all of us) and in the meantime you simply need to behave. And also, some human behaviors you will never understand (that goes for all of us too) and you simply need to accept and move on.

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Old Jun 28, 2021, 09:05 AM
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I want to learn human behavior. I also want to feel like everything is fair. As in, is it fair that 2 people started to look down on me the SAME day the GM first hurt my feelings, even though at that point, I wasn’t yet rude to anyone? That was 6 weeks ago. Remember I can’t understand concept beyond nice and rude. So anytime people stopped accepting me even though I hadn’t been rude causes me confusion.

Even though only these 2 people look down on me, I kinda feel like most people at work stopped accepting me.

Chain of events:
1. GM started being cold and rejecting. It causes
2. Two coworkers look down on me. Also, mild mental breakdowns cuz GM won’t talk to me. These in turn causes
3. Worse mental breakdown and my rudeness started to emerge. THAT causes
4. More people don’t accept me

I wish I coulda prevented the chain reaction at its source: GM being rejecting towards me. I coulda prevented that by not obsessing over him.. had I understood the concept of boundaries and appropriate distance
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Old Jun 28, 2021, 09:14 AM
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Have you said you were diagnosed with ASD and BPD in an older post? I am trying to understand more about these diagnoses and how they affect you. It is interesting to see how both of these may be at play in your thoughts and behavior. (Though I feel for you in having these).

Naive question: When you apply for a new job, does the manager tell the new company about your problematic behavior at the old job? Do unsuspecting companies keep hiring problematic employees without a clue?

Although your behavior seem to be disruptive and stressful to you and everyone else at your job, it could be dangerous. Do new companies unknowingly hire dangerous, stalkers because the old manager is not allowed to reveal this important information?
It’s illegal for previous employer to disclose employees behaviors. It does happen though. But really is not allowed.

Well stalking could be dangerous but if there is no legal actions or criminal record, new employer wouldn’t know and honestly they shouldn’t know whatever happened in other jobs.
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Old Jun 28, 2021, 09:42 AM
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Sometimes we all obsessing about things and sometimes we all feel like doing or saying something stupid. Yet we simply can’t. It will cause us jobs and/or more than that (state licensing, loss of freedom etc etc). You just can’t always do what you feel like doing regardless of reasoning behind your behaviors
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By law in most states the former employer can only confirm dates work, reason for leaving (were the fired for cause, laid off, or quit), position, and I believe pay. They cannot talk about the stalking behaviors, unless there were a legal record, like an arrest or restraining order, in which case it would not be slander, as it's provable. People you list as references can say more because you have given them permission to say more, but simply verifying work history with employers, you would not get that information. People often confuse verification of employment with references.

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Excellent reply seesaw. I would add one more thing former employers can report - whether the person is eligible to be rehired. No reason can be provided though if they are not eligible, though that in itself ought to be a fed flag.
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Excellent reply seesaw. I would add one more thing former employers can report - whether the person is eligible to be rehired. No reason can be provided though if they are not eligible, though that in itself ought to be a fed flag.
Yes, thank you for adding that, I forgot that one.
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Old Jun 28, 2021, 10:40 AM
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If you quit instead of gotten canned, they kinda have to make you rehireable. Especially if you’ve given notice.

My first time at McDonald’s was in 2009. It’s another store within the same franchise. When a coworker there flat out refused to be friends, I went beserk. By the time I quit, almost everyone there refused to associate with me at all. I was rude to everyone but her (10 times ruder than I am now, actually) and kept pestering her and bribing her with $$$ to be friends. Consequently, the work friends I had slowly stopped associating with me.

But the reason I quit May 2010 is because the GM scheduled me exactly ZERO hours per week for the past several weeks. She only called me in when she couldn’t get anyone else to come in, so I only ended up with average 5 hours per week during those several weeks.

But I had quit and gave my notice, so she listed me as rehireable. And here I am back at McDonald’s at the same franchise.

In hindsight, I believe I deserve what I got. Cuz I was rude AF to almost all my coworkers. Besides, pestering that girl is super annoying. Bribing her is super creepy. So is coming in on my days off to stare at her, willing her to talk to me.

But until recently, I hadn’t EVER been rude to anyone. Even when Sam’s club and Arby’s broke my heart into a million pieces I remained nice to everyone. Until yet another person trampled on my heart at my current job. Then I became mildly rude. And still am.

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If you quit instead of gotten canned, they kinda have to make you rehireable. Especially if you’ve given notice
That's not true, Ruby. If you quit you can still be deemed not eligible for rehire.
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That's not true, Ruby. If you quit you can still be deemed not eligible for rehire.
😮😮😮

I’m speechless. Lost for words. How is that logically possible?

Though I lasted 5.5 years at Sam’s club, I quit after my first 3 years. My supervisor was too uncomfortable with me being “fascinated” and “obsessed” with her. So I gave my 2 weeks notice like she begged me to. A year later, I returned because I’m eligible for rehire. I continued my Arby’s job while simultaneously rejoining Sam’s. Things at Arby’s ultimately cost me my job at Sam’s club.

So based on my experience, I couldn’t imagine any other scenario. Especially where you gave your notice, quit, and still be deemed non rehireable. Unless, of course, the company policy is not to rehire anyone who already worked there.
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Old Jun 28, 2021, 11:49 AM
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If you quit instead of gotten canned, they kinda have to make you rehireable. Especially if you’ve given notice.

My first time at McDonald’s was in 2009. It’s another store within the same franchise. When a coworker there flat out refused to be friends, I went beserk. By the time I quit, almost everyone there refused to associate with me at all. I was rude to everyone but her (10 times ruder than I am now, actually) and kept pestering her and bribing her with $$$ to be friends. Consequently, the work friends I had slowly stopped associating with me.

But the reason I quit May 2010 is because the GM scheduled me exactly ZERO hours per week for the past several weeks. She only called me in when she couldn’t get anyone else to come in, so I only ended up with average 5 hours per week during those several weeks.

But I had quit and gave my notice, so she listed me as rehireable. And here I am back at McDonald’s at the same franchise.

In hindsight, I believe I deserve what I got. Cuz I was rude AF to almost all my coworkers. Besides, pestering that girl is super annoying. Bribing her is super creepy. So is coming in on my days off to stare at her, willing her to talk to me.

But until recently, I hadn’t EVER been rude to anyone. Even when Sam’s club and Arby’s broke my heart into a million pieces I remained nice to everyone. Until yet another person trampled on my heart at my current job. Then I became mildly rude. And still am.
They don’t have to rehire you. No one is obligated to hire anyone else. They might rehire or might not regardless if you quit on your own or not. Having said that, it’s still better to leave of your own accord than be fired.

But wherever you go, there you are. Your troubles won’t end just because you go work elsewhere. Bottom line you just got to behave regardless where you are at. Job hopping isn’t a solution to work related issues.
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They don’t have to rehire you. No one is obligated to hire anyone else. They might rehire or might not regardless if you quit on your own or not. Having said that, it’s still better to leave of your own accord than be fired.

But wherever you go, there you are. Your troubles won’t end just because you go work elsewhere. Bottom line you just got to behave regardless where you are at. Job hopping isn’t a solution to work related issues.
Not quite relevant, but I’m curious what’s the minimum length of time you need to work for a single company to not be considered job hopping. Sam’s club kept me 5.5 years, so I’m guessing maybe you need to stick around at least 8-10 years to not be considered job hopping?
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Ruby, I'm not an advocate of masking or ABA therapy. I interact with too many Autism Advocates in my role as a patient advocate to support that. But the fact is these problems don't sound like ASD to me. Your fixation and infatuation with the GM is not about their behavior as a human and understanding that. Your fixation started well before they left the store. And your bad behavior all stems from this infatuation. You said you were diagnosed with BPD, and I think your issues arise out of that comorbidity. You seem prone to mood swings based on the behaviors of others, and that sounds like BPD to me, and the point is you need to follow up with a formal diagnosis so you can get the right help. You need professional help to help you navigate understanding which behaviors are appropriate for work and which are not.

You need to accept that understanding human behaviors takes time (for all of us) and in the meantime you simply need to behave. And also, some human behaviors you will never understand (that goes for all of us too) and you simply need to accept and move on.

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Yes, I believe Ruby said there are these two issues at play, which must be showing up in different behaviors. I’ll also add, Ruby, that your thoughts and behaviors seem to be not mild, not moderate, more severe on a scale for anyone who may also have the same diagnosis.

You have a series of issues at work, always the same fixation on the manager, problems with coworkers and customers, then on to the next job where you will do it again. Thankfully, you have not been a real danger to yourself or anyone else (physically), but it scares the wits out of me that someone could be and be able to keep going from job to job until something tragic happens.
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Yes, I believe Ruby said there are these two issues at play, which must be showing up in different behaviors. I’ll also add, Ruby, that your thoughts and behaviors seem to be not mild, not moderate, more severe on a scale for anyone who may also have the same diagnosis.

You have a series of issues at work, always the same fixation on the manager, problems with coworkers and customers, then on to the next job where you will do it again. Thankfully, you have not been a real danger to yourself or anyone else (physically), but it scares the wits out of me that someone could be and be able to keep going from job to job until something tragic happens.
My coworker Minion has borderline too. His manifestation is intense emotional feelings (and sometimes reactions to any little things) whether positive or negative. Good things make him elated. Bad things make him depressed AF. But Minion never attached to any particular person.

But I know other people with BPD may attach to someone in particular. Am I more severe among them? How is it possible to be severe without being rude? Confused
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Not quite relevant, but I’m curious what’s the minimum length of time you need to work for a single company to not be considered job hopping. Sam’s club kept me 5.5 years, so I’m guessing maybe you need to stick around at least 8-10 years to not be considered job hopping?
5.5 is a pretty decent time in the company. Good job!

I don’t think there are any rules or time frames. I consider job hopping is quitting and running somewhere else every time something goes less than perfect or every time they mess up. Instead of trying to improve, they run. 99.99% of the time people would encounter exact same issue in every job.

Simply changing job for promotion, relocation, better pay etc isn’t job hopping imho. No rules that you must stick around.

My daughter changed quite few jobs in the past few years as she was determined to find correct combination of tasks she’d be responsible for/compensation/room for growth. Not all could be obvious until you start working.

Although it did look like too much jumping around to the outsider, I know what she was doing.

So nothing wrong with changing jobs. But if you do it because you behave inappropriately, it doesn’t serve the purpose. Just got to behave
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BPD and ASD is a tough combination. That’s why you must work with a professional regularly.

When you were diagnosed with BPD why didn’t they refer you to a therapist? I know people with BPD and ton with ASD but not in combination. People I know with BPD have extreme difficulty with keeping jobs and relationships.

Regular therapy is a paramount. You can’t do it on your own
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BPD and ASD is a tough combination. That’s why you must work with a professional regularly.

When you were diagnosed with BPD why didn’t they refer you to a therapist? I know people with BPD and ton with ASD but not in combination. People I know with BPD have extreme difficulty with keeping jobs and relationships.

Regular therapy is a paramount. You can’t do it on your own
My primary therapist diagnosed me with BPD. Saw her regularly until she moved out of state. Now the only place that takes my insurance is all booked out few months down the road. And no amount of haggling and negotiating on my part got any other place to take my insurance,

“But it’s such a good policy! It’s zero deductible and I don’t pay a cent out of pocket for therapy.” Nope. They still won’t do it
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I'm going through a really hard time given that yet another person who used to treat me kindly walked out on me. I took to Facebook retail and fast food workers group (the person who walked out on me was someone I worked with) and got ridiculed. Some gave good advice but most of the comments were ridicule and criticism. I'm glad to have gotten banned from that group.

One of the comments were, "He didn't walk out on you. He transferred." Well duh no sh;t. He transferred but he didn't walk out on my coworkers. He walked out on me. They're not the one he's ignoring when he stops by to borrow stuff. I'm here to complain about these very coworkers, most of whom are ridicule me just as much, to the point that I wish they would just ignore me more. I'm just grateful for the few that are sympathetic.

My GM transferred at the end of March. But he walked out on me 6 weeks ago (idk beginning of May). That was when my coworkers and shift managers started looking down on me. It started with them generally not wanting to associate with me. When they did, it was to point out how I was supposed to do my job or to falsely tell me that the GM stopped by just to see my reaction. They also rub in who has such good relationship with the GM just to see me hurt.

idk if I did anything wrong to not get the sympathy I desperately need. But I do know every single day for the past 6 weeks, I always mention the GM and how much it hurts that he walked out on me. I also bite people's head off but only when they get in my way. Don't forget that the day that GM walked out on me I cried in the restroom for half an hour, leaving my coworkers to pick up the slack.

I had only a brief respite during the past 6 weeks when a shift manager revealed to me that when asked, that GM denied ignoring me. I felt relief, but it only lasted a week because when he stopped by yet again, he ignored me. He responds when I try to talk to him, but on the scale on 1-10 with 10 being the most outgoing and friendly, he's always at least an 8 with my coworkers but barely a 2 with me. Every time he's here!

Are my colleagues so depraved that they couldn't even try to lift up someone who's hurting and falling apart? Instead, they tear her down even further. They're not the one he pushed away. And more importantly, they're not the ones who had so many people walk out on them like I had.

I worked with some of these people for 3 years. I was never quite normal. But the most they did was laugh it off as they continued to accept me...until 6 weeks ago. Did they change their attitude because I was going through hard times?
Not sure how many times we are all going to tell you this, but your behavior is pushing people away which is very inappropriate especially in a work environment. Clinging on to people, crying for a half hour while you let your coworkers pick up the slack, stalking behavior in the workplace, obsessions, and just an unwillingness to accept that you're the reason people are distancing themselves from you. Better stop doing that right now or else they will fire you from that location as well. And also friendships are not really formed in the workplace. Coworkers are nice and cordial with each other, but true friendships are never formed especially if there's a huge age gap like at my work. My coworkers don't talk to me at all unless it is work related, and even then some don't talk to me. Yes, it is annoying, but I just brush it off. Crying because you're old GM and coworkers ignore you is not the way to handle it, especially since you did it to yourself. Sorry to be so harsh but your behavior is unprofessional and I suggest you seek help with a therapist and learn to take responsibility for your own actions.
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My primary therapist diagnosed me with BPD. Saw her regularly until she moved out of state. Now the only place that takes my insurance is all booked out few months down the road. And no amount of haggling and negotiating on my part got any other place to take my insurance,

“But it’s such a good policy! It’s zero deductible and I don’t pay a cent out of pocket for therapy.” Nope. They still won’t do it
It's a cheap policy, Ruby, not a good policy.

Ruby, I know you don't make much money, but since you do currently live with your parents, I'm hoping some of it is saved. Could you call back some of the local places and ask what they would charge you if you had to pay out of pocket? Ask them if they have a sliding scale for low income individuals. You would have to pay, but I think it's an essential self-care thing for you to see a therapist.

Another option for you while you are awaiting therapy is to order a DBT workbook from Amazon to work through while you wait for your appointment. They have DBT workbooks for BPD, and I think this will help you deal with your feelings of distress when you feel like others "look down" on you or don't respond the way you want. It will help you manage your emotions.

Someone else previously posted a website for Autistic Self Advocacy Network, I think. But here is their resource page again: Resource Library | Autistic Self Advocacy Network.

It's great that you are seeking support here on MSF, but I think it will help you to communicate with other people with ASD who have learned to navigate.

Another question: do you have any official accommodations in your employee file? It sounds like you need to request that not working back drive be an official accommodation if it is too hard for you. If it's simply a matter of the GM, then no. But if it's an ongoing issue unrelated to that, you may want to make that request formally.
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Secondary Dx: Generalized Anxiety Disorder with mild Agoraphobia.

Meds I've tried: Prozac, Zoloft, Celexa, Effexor, Remeron, Elavil, Wellbutrin, Risperidone, Abilify, Prazosin, Paxil, Trazadone, Tramadol, Topomax, Xanax, Propranolol, Valium, Visteril, Vraylar, Selinor, Clonopin, Ambien

Treatments I've done: CBT, DBT, Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation (TMS), Talk therapy, psychotherapy, exercise, diet, sleeping more, sleeping less...
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My coworker Minion has borderline too. His manifestation is intense emotional feelings (and sometimes reactions to any little things) whether positive or negative. Good things make him elated. Bad things make him depressed AF. But Minion never attached to any particular person.

But I know other people with BPD may attach to someone in particular. Am I more severe among them? How is it possible to be severe without being rude? Confused
I’m no judge of severity. But, these issues are causing you extreme difficulty. You say you want to engage in adult life. They are keeping you back.

I assume your parents support you and you live with them? I’m not sure if I’d have been supported by mine. It may have been sink or swim.

You are obviously very intelligent. It shows by the way you write. Do you think if you had to financially support yourself you could be serious about work and rise in career?
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Is your file with vocational rehabilitation closed due to you having a job? Due to your diagnosis you qualify for disability vocational services for life but they’ll close your file every time you are employed. BUT if you only work part time you might still reopen the file with plans on getting full time job or training. I can once again resend the links. Since you aren’t looking at links I am not sending again unless you say you want it. You might want to tell them that you need a different job. Not in customer service
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