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That’s why when we on here or support groups or therapist or doctor advice you that certain behaviors are wrong and you just stop it’s pointless to keep arguing about it or keep doing it. You need to try to stop bad behaviors regardless if you think you shouldn’t. Even if you don’t naturally feel what’s right, you could and should make an effort based on the input |
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Have you said you were diagnosed with ASD and BPD in an older post? I am trying to understand more about these diagnoses and how they affect you. It is interesting to see how both of these may be at play in your thoughts and behavior. (Though I feel for you in having these).
Naive question: When you apply for a new job, does the manager tell the new company about your problematic behavior at the old job? Do unsuspecting companies keep hiring problematic employees without a clue? Although your behavior seem to be disruptive and stressful to you and everyone else at your job, it could be dangerous. Do new companies unknowingly hire dangerous, stalkers because the old manager is not allowed to reveal this important information?
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![]() What if I fall? Oh, my dear, but what if you fly? Primary Dx: C-PTSD and Severe Chronic Treatment Resistant Major Depressive Disorder Secondary Dx: Generalized Anxiety Disorder with mild Agoraphobia. Meds I've tried: Prozac, Zoloft, Celexa, Effexor, Remeron, Elavil, Wellbutrin, Risperidone, Abilify, Prazosin, Paxil, Trazadone, Tramadol, Topomax, Xanax, Propranolol, Valium, Visteril, Vraylar, Selinor, Clonopin, Ambien Treatments I've done: CBT, DBT, Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation (TMS), Talk therapy, psychotherapy, exercise, diet, sleeping more, sleeping less... |
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#229
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You are right, animals do not have the logical thinking mind capability that humans do so they can not be expected to do something their mind has no capability of doing. The human mind had the capability so obviously logical thinking is EXPECTED out of people. Even when a human mind is not functioning as normal minds function, if that person insists in functioning in a situation where people with normal thinking people function then the normal thinking & behavior is expected out of them too. Interesting with my animals, even my wild raccoons & huge horse....they all respect my space because they learned & I have taught them to interface with me & respect my space. I communicate with my animals at a totally different level than many people do & they respond way beyond ways most animals respond to people. But even with animals my interface with them is that of mutual RESPECT & I am sure their personalities are part of what makes my interface with them so good.....besides they all know my boundaries & we thrive together
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Ruby, I'm not an advocate of masking or ABA therapy. I interact with too many Autism Advocates in my role as a patient advocate to support that. But the fact is these problems don't sound like ASD to me. Your fixation and infatuation with the GM is not about their behavior as a human and understanding that. Your fixation started well before they left the store. And your bad behavior all stems from this infatuation. You said you were diagnosed with BPD, and I think your issues arise out of that comorbidity. You seem prone to mood swings based on the behaviors of others, and that sounds like BPD to me, and the point is you need to follow up with a formal diagnosis so you can get the right help. You need professional help to help you navigate understanding which behaviors are appropriate for work and which are not.
You need to accept that understanding human behaviors takes time (for all of us) and in the meantime you simply need to behave. And also, some human behaviors you will never understand (that goes for all of us too) and you simply need to accept and move on. Sent from my SM-N986U using Tapatalk
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![]() What if I fall? Oh, my dear, but what if you fly? Primary Dx: C-PTSD and Severe Chronic Treatment Resistant Major Depressive Disorder Secondary Dx: Generalized Anxiety Disorder with mild Agoraphobia. Meds I've tried: Prozac, Zoloft, Celexa, Effexor, Remeron, Elavil, Wellbutrin, Risperidone, Abilify, Prazosin, Paxil, Trazadone, Tramadol, Topomax, Xanax, Propranolol, Valium, Visteril, Vraylar, Selinor, Clonopin, Ambien Treatments I've done: CBT, DBT, Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation (TMS), Talk therapy, psychotherapy, exercise, diet, sleeping more, sleeping less... |
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I want to learn human behavior. I also want to feel like everything is fair. As in, is it fair that 2 people started to look down on me the SAME day the GM first hurt my feelings, even though at that point, I wasn’t yet rude to anyone? That was 6 weeks ago. Remember I can’t understand concept beyond nice and rude. So anytime people stopped accepting me even though I hadn’t been rude causes me confusion.
Even though only these 2 people look down on me, I kinda feel like most people at work stopped accepting me. Chain of events: 1. GM started being cold and rejecting. It causes 2. Two coworkers look down on me. Also, mild mental breakdowns cuz GM won’t talk to me. These in turn causes 3. Worse mental breakdown and my rudeness started to emerge. THAT causes 4. More people don’t accept me I wish I coulda prevented the chain reaction at its source: GM being rejecting towards me. I coulda prevented that by not obsessing over him.. had I understood the concept of boundaries and appropriate distance |
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Well stalking could be dangerous but if there is no legal actions or criminal record, new employer wouldn’t know and honestly they shouldn’t know whatever happened in other jobs. |
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Sometimes we all obsessing about things and sometimes we all feel like doing or saying something stupid. Yet we simply can’t. It will cause us jobs and/or more than that (state licensing, loss of freedom etc etc). You just can’t always do what you feel like doing regardless of reasoning behind your behaviors
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#235
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Yes, thank you for adding that, I forgot that one.
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![]() What if I fall? Oh, my dear, but what if you fly? Primary Dx: C-PTSD and Severe Chronic Treatment Resistant Major Depressive Disorder Secondary Dx: Generalized Anxiety Disorder with mild Agoraphobia. Meds I've tried: Prozac, Zoloft, Celexa, Effexor, Remeron, Elavil, Wellbutrin, Risperidone, Abilify, Prazosin, Paxil, Trazadone, Tramadol, Topomax, Xanax, Propranolol, Valium, Visteril, Vraylar, Selinor, Clonopin, Ambien Treatments I've done: CBT, DBT, Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation (TMS), Talk therapy, psychotherapy, exercise, diet, sleeping more, sleeping less... |
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If you quit instead of gotten canned, they kinda have to make you rehireable. Especially if you’ve given notice.
My first time at McDonald’s was in 2009. It’s another store within the same franchise. When a coworker there flat out refused to be friends, I went beserk. By the time I quit, almost everyone there refused to associate with me at all. I was rude to everyone but her (10 times ruder than I am now, actually) and kept pestering her and bribing her with $$$ to be friends. Consequently, the work friends I had slowly stopped associating with me. But the reason I quit May 2010 is because the GM scheduled me exactly ZERO hours per week for the past several weeks. She only called me in when she couldn’t get anyone else to come in, so I only ended up with average 5 hours per week during those several weeks. But I had quit and gave my notice, so she listed me as rehireable. And here I am back at McDonald’s at the same franchise. In hindsight, I believe I deserve what I got. Cuz I was rude AF to almost all my coworkers. Besides, pestering that girl is super annoying. Bribing her is super creepy. So is coming in on my days off to stare at her, willing her to talk to me. But until recently, I hadn’t EVER been rude to anyone. Even when Sam’s club and Arby’s broke my heart into a million pieces I remained nice to everyone. Until yet another person trampled on my heart at my current job. Then I became mildly rude. And still am. Last edited by Anonymous49235; Jun 28, 2021 at 10:53 AM. |
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That's not true, Ruby. If you quit you can still be deemed not eligible for rehire.
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![]() What if I fall? Oh, my dear, but what if you fly? Primary Dx: C-PTSD and Severe Chronic Treatment Resistant Major Depressive Disorder Secondary Dx: Generalized Anxiety Disorder with mild Agoraphobia. Meds I've tried: Prozac, Zoloft, Celexa, Effexor, Remeron, Elavil, Wellbutrin, Risperidone, Abilify, Prazosin, Paxil, Trazadone, Tramadol, Topomax, Xanax, Propranolol, Valium, Visteril, Vraylar, Selinor, Clonopin, Ambien Treatments I've done: CBT, DBT, Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation (TMS), Talk therapy, psychotherapy, exercise, diet, sleeping more, sleeping less... |
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I’m speechless. Lost for words. How is that logically possible? Though I lasted 5.5 years at Sam’s club, I quit after my first 3 years. My supervisor was too uncomfortable with me being “fascinated” and “obsessed” with her. So I gave my 2 weeks notice like she begged me to. A year later, I returned because I’m eligible for rehire. I continued my Arby’s job while simultaneously rejoining Sam’s. Things at Arby’s ultimately cost me my job at Sam’s club. So based on my experience, I couldn’t imagine any other scenario. Especially where you gave your notice, quit, and still be deemed non rehireable. Unless, of course, the company policy is not to rehire anyone who already worked there. |
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But wherever you go, there you are. Your troubles won’t end just because you go work elsewhere. Bottom line you just got to behave regardless where you are at. Job hopping isn’t a solution to work related issues. |
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#241
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You have a series of issues at work, always the same fixation on the manager, problems with coworkers and customers, then on to the next job where you will do it again. Thankfully, you have not been a real danger to yourself or anyone else (physically), but it scares the wits out of me that someone could be and be able to keep going from job to job until something tragic happens.
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But I know other people with BPD may attach to someone in particular. Am I more severe among them? How is it possible to be severe without being rude? Confused |
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I don’t think there are any rules or time frames. I consider job hopping is quitting and running somewhere else every time something goes less than perfect or every time they mess up. Instead of trying to improve, they run. 99.99% of the time people would encounter exact same issue in every job. Simply changing job for promotion, relocation, better pay etc isn’t job hopping imho. No rules that you must stick around. My daughter changed quite few jobs in the past few years as she was determined to find correct combination of tasks she’d be responsible for/compensation/room for growth. Not all could be obvious until you start working. Although it did look like too much jumping around to the outsider, I know what she was doing. So nothing wrong with changing jobs. But if you do it because you behave inappropriately, it doesn’t serve the purpose. Just got to behave |
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BPD and ASD is a tough combination. That’s why you must work with a professional regularly.
When you were diagnosed with BPD why didn’t they refer you to a therapist? I know people with BPD and ton with ASD but not in combination. People I know with BPD have extreme difficulty with keeping jobs and relationships. Regular therapy is a paramount. You can’t do it on your own |
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“But it’s such a good policy! It’s zero deductible and I don’t pay a cent out of pocket for therapy.” Nope. They still won’t do it |
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#247
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Ruby, I know you don't make much money, but since you do currently live with your parents, I'm hoping some of it is saved. Could you call back some of the local places and ask what they would charge you if you had to pay out of pocket? Ask them if they have a sliding scale for low income individuals. You would have to pay, but I think it's an essential self-care thing for you to see a therapist. Another option for you while you are awaiting therapy is to order a DBT workbook from Amazon to work through while you wait for your appointment. They have DBT workbooks for BPD, and I think this will help you deal with your feelings of distress when you feel like others "look down" on you or don't respond the way you want. It will help you manage your emotions. Someone else previously posted a website for Autistic Self Advocacy Network, I think. But here is their resource page again: Resource Library | Autistic Self Advocacy Network. It's great that you are seeking support here on MSF, but I think it will help you to communicate with other people with ASD who have learned to navigate. Another question: do you have any official accommodations in your employee file? It sounds like you need to request that not working back drive be an official accommodation if it is too hard for you. If it's simply a matter of the GM, then no. But if it's an ongoing issue unrelated to that, you may want to make that request formally.
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![]() What if I fall? Oh, my dear, but what if you fly? Primary Dx: C-PTSD and Severe Chronic Treatment Resistant Major Depressive Disorder Secondary Dx: Generalized Anxiety Disorder with mild Agoraphobia. Meds I've tried: Prozac, Zoloft, Celexa, Effexor, Remeron, Elavil, Wellbutrin, Risperidone, Abilify, Prazosin, Paxil, Trazadone, Tramadol, Topomax, Xanax, Propranolol, Valium, Visteril, Vraylar, Selinor, Clonopin, Ambien Treatments I've done: CBT, DBT, Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation (TMS), Talk therapy, psychotherapy, exercise, diet, sleeping more, sleeping less... |
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I assume your parents support you and you live with them? I’m not sure if I’d have been supported by mine. It may have been sink or swim. ![]() You are obviously very intelligent. It shows by the way you write. Do you think if you had to financially support yourself you could be serious about work and rise in career?
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Is your file with vocational rehabilitation closed due to you having a job? Due to your diagnosis you qualify for disability vocational services for life but they’ll close your file every time you are employed. BUT if you only work part time you might still reopen the file with plans on getting full time job or training. I can once again resend the links. Since you aren’t looking at links I am not sending again unless you say you want it. You might want to tell them that you need a different job. Not in customer service
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