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Old Jan 29, 2023, 07:00 AM
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Good point!!!! He used to get me flowers every other week or so, so that's why he did this, I do believe. He knows I love flowers and they cheer me up.
Well yeah many husbands buy their wives flowers, but you two filed for divorce and are separated so no sending two dozen roses isn’t a normal gesture and isn’t done to cheer you up. Going through divorce doesn’t mean people can’t do something to help their former partner with something or cheer them up. It’s understandable. But not roses and not two dozen. He does it now because you called him and he now has more hope. He is love bombing. It worked last time so he’s encouraged.

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Old Jan 29, 2023, 07:06 AM
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Well yeah many husbands buy their wives flowers, but you two filed for divorce and are separated so no sending two dozen roses isn’t a normal gesture and isn’t done to cheer you up. Going through divorce doesn’t mean people can’t do something to help their former partner with something or cheer them up. It’s understandable. But not roses and not two dozen. He does it now because you called him and he now has more hope. He is love bombing. It worked last time so he’s encouraged.
I do know this. Which is why when he showed up with roses, I told him that I don't want to give him any false hopes of reconciliation.
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Old Jan 29, 2023, 07:29 AM
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You might want to reread your threads when you were separated last time. Unless memory fails me, everything what is happening is almost identical. You need him. He amps up his love bombing. You get together. He’s love bombing for a bit more. Then he stops live bombing and it goes downhill again.

He should not be “showing up” to his soon to be ex wife’s residence. It’s self absorbed and inconsiderate. You might have company. And in fact you had company few times! What if he showed up then? But he’s confident in what he’s doing. He’s smart
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Old Jan 29, 2023, 08:05 AM
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Old Jan 29, 2023, 08:07 AM
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You might want to reread your threads when you were separated last time. Unless memory fails me, everything what is happening is almost identical. You need him. He amps up his love bombing. You get together. He’s love bombing for a bit more. Then he stops live bombing and it goes downhill again.

He should not be “showing up” to his soon to be ex wife’s residence. It’s self absorbed and inconsiderate. You might have company. And in fact you had company few times! What if he showed up then? But he’s confident in what he’s doing. He’s smart
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Old Jan 29, 2023, 08:21 AM
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I think hes a idiot for treating Have Hope badly
By saying he is smart I don’t mean he is a wonderful human being. He’s smart in terms of how he knows what works on Hope, in a sneaky way. First “I am there for you, poor you” then it’s roses and now valentine day coming up and it’ll be roses and chocolate because he knows it will make Hope feel good not to be alone on valentine day because he knows what matters to Hope. He knows what works. I never said he treats Hope or anyone well.
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Old Jan 29, 2023, 09:15 AM
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@divine1966 - Yes, I realize what I've done and now I need to nip it in the bud. I will tell him that I am not changing my mind about a divorce, and that I won't be getting together with him. He now is writing to me, offering to hang out. I see it is a very slippery slope, which is why I need to nip this now.

@willowtigger - thank you for your sweet, kind words!
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Old Jan 29, 2023, 09:38 AM
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By saying he is smart I don’t mean he is a wonderful human being. He’s smart in terms of how he knows what works on Hope, in a sneaky way. First “I am there for you, poor you” then it’s roses and now valentine day coming up and it’ll be roses and chocolate because he knows it will make Hope feel good not to be alone on valentine day because he knows what matters to Hope. He knows what works. I never said he treats Hope or anyone well.
sorry i miss understood what you meant

i didnt want Hope to feel as though him being smart makes her stupid or weak

cause she's not stupid or weak
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Old Jan 29, 2023, 09:55 AM
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sorry i miss understood what you meant

i didnt want Hope to feel as though him being smart makes her stupid or weak

cause she's not stupid or weak
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Old Jan 29, 2023, 10:27 AM
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You may or may not find this helpful:

In the past it seemed to be both of us (my h and me) who were doing the high highs and low lows. I then made myself very clear that I want steady consistency and will not engage in the high/low dance. I have stopped. I now observe that it is him trying to do the high lows. I’m not taking the bait. For whatever reason, he is incapable of giving me normal, healthy, moderate consistency. The only thing I can do is disengage, separate, individuate. I’m never going to get what I need from him. I have grieved that already. I’m just being compassionate to myself and to him.
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Old Jan 29, 2023, 10:37 AM
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You may or may not find this helpful:

In the past it seemed to be both of us (my h and me) who were doing the high highs and low lows. I then made myself very clear that I want steady consistency and will not engage in the high/low dance. I have stopped. I now observe that it is him trying to do the high lows. I’m not taking the bait. For whatever reason, he is incapable of giving me normal, healthy, moderate consistency. The only thing I can do is disengage, separate, individuate. I’m never going to get what I need from him. I have grieved that already. I’m just being compassionate to myself and to him.
I understand fully, Tisha. You are protecting yourself and your emotions as best as you can, which is all you can really do in your situation, unless you choose to leave.

I will not be returning to my husband or my marriage. My mind is made up. I don't feel the same feelings for him. I am not in love with him, and I do not wish to be with him again.

And, I don't have it within me to return to him while maintaining any peace of mind. I know that if I did choose to return, my inner voice would be screaming at me - at the top of her lungs. lol.

I just don't have the desire OR the energy to try again, after ALL he's done to me. I just don't. And I don't trust him. If I cannot trust him, I cannot be with him in a relationship.

So, there's that.
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Old Jan 29, 2023, 10:45 AM
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Try harder to not call him next time and remember what my mom said about your fingers lol…
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Old Jan 29, 2023, 10:54 AM
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[This person] will only kick you back down, Have Hope

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Old Jan 29, 2023, 05:18 PM
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He had sent a few lengthy texts too. I had unblocked him a week or so ago to discuss signing the divorce papers. He is trying to woo me back again. I am pretty astounded that he would want anything to do with me, after kicking him out of his home twice now. He is saying things like "you looked so beautiful" and "I was full of emotion after seeing you" and "I just wanted to hold you and give you love".

It does pull at my heart strings a tiny bit, I must admit. And a part of me wishes I could ask him to move back in, only to help me pay rent and bills. Obviously, I will NOT do that, because I don't love him and I don't want him anymore. A friend even asked if he could be my roommate. NO WAY. I am only sharing my deepest thoughts right now and they are there because I feel desperate. He is not allowed back in my life though. Never again. I will find other solutions - I will get a job if it's the last thing I do. I have to get determined.
Sounds like he is trying to gaslight and manipulate your emotions.
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Old Jan 29, 2023, 05:20 PM
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I’m sorry to hear you lost your job and hope you find another soon. I’ll tell you what my mother would tell me: May your fingers fall off if you dial out to call him. Sorry if that was too harsh, it worked for me though.
Wow! That does sound really harsh.
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Old Jan 29, 2023, 05:22 PM
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Look at what you said when he last reached out to you. If you are no longer that person for him then it is grossly unfair and hypocritical to expect him to still be that person for you...
That is a strong message and a little harsh.
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Dear Diary today will be different today I can smile it will be genuine because today is the day I get to live.

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Like love, it's how we know we're alive.

And life goes on.

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Old Jan 30, 2023, 07:35 AM
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That is a strong message and a little harsh.
Yes it was.
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Old Jan 30, 2023, 07:36 AM
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I am a MESS. Just a plain mess. Now I have a health insurance snafu to resolve and I don't have coverage right now to get my medications filled at the pharmacy. My employer screwed up my health insurance coverage. They were supposed to pay for the last two weeks, and it turns out, I don't have any medical insurance. This is just all such a nightmare.
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Old Jan 30, 2023, 10:13 AM
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I want to die. I don't want to live anymore.

No, don't worry - I do not need a hotline. I am just expressing my emotions. I am completely overwhelmed with problems, which seem to simply be piling up on me.

I cannot deal anymore with stress or this life I am in.
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Old Jan 30, 2023, 11:11 AM
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I do truly hope things get better quickly for you, Hope
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Old Jan 30, 2023, 11:30 AM
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Wow! That does sound really harsh.
Yes, it was a very harsh thing for my mother to say to teenager me. I actually lessened the comment a bit. It was even more harsh, too harsh to write of what she really said. It did, however, stop me from dialing out the phone to call a boy who was no good for me. I just thought it might help Have Hope laugh about that and use her best judgment for her own self care.
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Old Jan 30, 2023, 12:10 PM
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Have Hope deserves good things to happen and i hope they happen soon ❤️
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Old Jan 30, 2023, 12:11 PM
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It has cultural overtones, so it may sound harsh to WASP's, for example.
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