[bizi]

173.6, my weight is fluctuating....and to get back to dieting again. Had a wonderful dinner out last night.
Fried chicken and roasted brussel sprouts and our favorite mac and chess.
Even though I had the equivalent of 3 beers total yesterday with jeff,
I was going to sneak off and have a couple after work with out jeff knowing but I decided to not do that. At least I decided to just go home, To just go home.
any way, think I will throw out the rest of the truly's beverage(pour down the drain)...I don't even like them. They are just a temptation that I don't need.
It is so easy to fall back into old habits....
sigh
bizi

[UpDownAround]

The depressing article of the day:
The Fat Trap - The New York Times

It's a long read, but very informative. Buried in there is the hope that leptin replacement therapy can make it easier to keep weight off; it says that is years away but it is a 2012 article. As I approach goal, I am learning that almost done is barely begun. That small minority of people who keep weight off monitor maintenance as carefully as weight loss.

One ray of hope for me is that I was not at my highest weight for all that long; months, but not years, weighing over 220 (peak was 230) and I have only weighed that much twice. But I spent several years above 185 and at least a few years in a row at or above the low 190s. That still means my body is likely to put up a fight when I try to stay in the low 160s. From about age 25 to 40, I weighed close to 175 without a lot of variation. From 40 to 50, it was mostly in the 180s and never as high as 200. After age 50, I hit 200 a lot. That used to be my "freak out weight" that would get me to go into crash diet mode and lose back to 185 then almost immediately gain back to 190. Somewhere in my 50s, 200 became more acceptable and I weighed 200 or more quite a bit of the time, but not the majority of the time.

And here is an article that your annoying skinny friend should read:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/what-th...about-dieting/

They have the luck of the right genetics more than willpower.

[99fairies]

I'm having an only liquids diet today. And I'm on Geodon, which I'm supposed to eat with it but I just can't do it. I can't help myself. I think my brain is broken, I can't get past this. I gained a pound yesterday and it made me not to want to eat today. I know this unhealthy but I can't stop it on my own. I don't see my T for a couple months. She's on leave. What do I do till I see her again.

Originally Posted by 99fairies

I'm having an only liquids diet today. And I'm on Geodon, which I'm supposed to eat with it but I just can't do it. I can't help myself. I think my brain is broken, I can't get past this. I gained a pound yesterday and it made me not to want to eat today. I know this unhealthy but I can't stop it on my own. I don't see my T for a couple months. She's on leave. What do I do till I see her again.

Would it be helpful to know that if you continue to starve yourself, you will likely slow down your metabolism and make weight gain much more likely once you start eating normally again? It sounds counter-intuitive, but eating more (at least 1200 calories a day), will keep the metabolism going and your body won't go into starvation mode. Start with just liquids if you'd like, like protein drinks or smoothies, then work up from there. Maybe start with easy to digest solids, like bananas or crackers. Treat your body right, and it will take care of you.

[99fairies]

I could do that but it's very hard to count calories in a smoothie shake.. I get most of my calories in a slimfast

Originally Posted by 99fairies

I could do that but it's very hard to count calories in a smoothie shake.. I get most of my calories in a slimfast

Would you ever consider not counting calories? It's not -necessarily- a necessary thing, if you are eating healthy. But there are simple smoothies you can make, where you could measure the calorie content. If you Google "simple healthy smoothies" I bet you could find many with the nutritional information included.

[UpDownAround]

Originally Posted by scaredandconfused

Would it be helpful to know that if you continue to starve yourself, you will likely slow down your metabolism and make weight gain much more likely once you start eating normally again? It sounds counter-intuitive, but eating more (at least 1200 calories a day), will keep the metabolism going and your body won't go into starvation mode. Start with just liquids if you'd like, like protein drinks or smoothies, then work up from there. Maybe start with easy to digest solids, like bananas or crackers. Treat your body right, and it will take care of you.

Some metabolism loss is real (some serious science in the articles linked in my prior post from earlier today), but "starvation mode" is not. You can drop your daily caloric requirements by as much as 400, but that is very rare. Dropping by 200 is not that rare if you lose a lot of weight and the bad news is that you don't bounce right back. Anyway, that means that very few people can maintain their weight on under 1200 calories a day. There is only so much efficiency gain available; keeping a body above room temperature, pumping blood, respirating air, digesting food, walking, etc are physical processes that require energy. If you approached it as a physics problem, the amount of work and the energy to perform it would be less than we usually require because we are inefficient. The body does become more efficient when calories are reduced but there are limits.

What really sucks is that it does not reset easily. Someone who weighs 200 and can maintain it with 2300 a day might lose to 170 expecting to maintain it at 2000 and find that it is actually 1800 because of the metabolic adjustment. Then they gain back to 200 and now it only takes 2100 to maintain, so if they return to their old eating habits of 2300, they gain even more.

That's the bad news. The good news is that it does seem to stabilize, so if you can get used to eating the lower than expected maintenance calories, you can maintain the lower weight. Very few people do; studies I am reading have success pegged at about 8% of people who maintain a substantially lower weight long term. One study referenced from one of the articles I linked found that most of the people who do maintain are still diligently tracking their weight and diet.

[UpDownAround]

Originally Posted by 99fairies

I could do that but it's very hard to count calories in a smoothie shake.. I get most of my calories in a slimfast

I use my scale. put the cup or blender on it and reset to zero. Add ingredient and add it by weight to my MFP diary on my phone. Reset scale. Add next ingredient. It goes quicker than you think, but I usually only have a few ingredients. There are entries for just about all common shake items by the gram in the MFP database. Yeah, I am a little an@l about it. Studies show we are terrible at estimating. I still do some estimating but get the stuff I can accurately.

[hopeless2015]

I'm going to have to quit following this thread. It's too triggering with the daily weight ins and ,5 oz weight gain a day or .5 is weight loss. Should you be weighing every single day? I'm sorry, I'm not here to judge anyone, but i am worried that this is becoming obsessive. I want you all to be healthy and happy. Please don't be offended by my comment...jusy really triggered tonight. Please accept my hugs and healthy wishes!!

[Cocosurviving]

Originally Posted by hopeless2015

I'm going to have to quit following this thread. It's too triggering with the daily weight ins and ,5 oz weight gain a day or .5 is weight loss. Should you be weighing every single day? I'm sorry, I'm not here to judge anyone, but i am worried that this is becoming obsessive. I want you all to be healthy and happy. Please don't be offended by my comment...jusy really triggered tonight. Please accept my hugs and healthy wishes!!

I’m not offended. I actually left myself and just recently came back because no other forum was as active not to be rude but it is triggering for me too with all the daily weighing but I ignore it. A few people do not do that.

[Cocosurviving]

MFP calories 1,082. Apple Watch steps 4,375. Water intake 28oz

[UpDownAround]

I weigh every two days and I include tenths of a pound since I switched to a slower/healthier loss; sorry if that bothers anyone. I expected a bounce back up this morning as 2 days ago was over a pound lower than 4 days ago. I knew that had to be part dehydration. I got my bounce; today I was 169.8. That is slightly lower than 4 days ago, so still trending in the right direction. I am hopeful that I won't bounce any higher as getting into the 160s and staying there will be a big mental boost; my goal is to stay below 165 once I get there. Not far away now. I am tempted to mix in a few really low calorie days to sped things up, but I am probably better off exercising patience.

Originally Posted by hopeless2015

I'm going to have to quit following this thread. It's too triggering with the daily weight ins and ,5 oz weight gain a day or .5 is weight loss. Should you be weighing every single day? I'm sorry, I'm not here to judge anyone, but i am worried that this is becoming obsessive. I want you all to be healthy and happy. Please don't be offended by my comment...jusy really triggered tonight. Please accept my hugs and healthy wishes!!

My weight can fluctuate up to 5 pounds depending on the day, so I don't use the scale to determine my progress. I don't do measurements either. That being said, I'm not looking to lose weight (I'm at the normal range) and am just trying to make some healthy choices for my physical and mental health.

For those who are looking to lose weight, I would encourage you to weigh once a week at most, maybe even less. Measurements are a much better indicator of progress anyhow, since weight can fluctuate for many reasons.

[UpDownAround]

The National Weight Control Registry tracks several thousand people who are successful at losing 30 pounds or more and keeping it off at least a year. 75% of them weigh at least once a week. I know in the past when I regained weight, I was not vigilant and tracking closely after I got to goal. This time I plan to.

Research Findings

EDIT - one study does a deep dive on that:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/...ubmed_RVDocSum

36.2% of participants reported weighing themselves at least once per day, and more frequent weighing was associated with lower BMI and higher scores on disinhibition and cognitive restraint

Originally Posted by UpDownAround

The National Weight Control Registry tracks several thousand people who are successful at losing 30 pounds or more and keeping it off at least a year. 75% of them weigh at least once a week. I know in the past when I regained weight, I was not vigilant and tracking closely after I got to goal. This time I plan to.

Research Findings

Do you do measurements around various areas of your body, like chest, waist, stomach, hips, legs and arms and keep track of that as well? Sure, weighing in once a week is just fine, but I feel measurements are a more solid way of seeing progress.

Also from the amount that you post here, aren't you weighing in more than once a week?

[UpDownAround]

Originally Posted by scaredandconfused

Do you do measurements around various areas of your body, like chest, waist, stomach, hips, legs and arms and keep track of that as well? Sure, weighing in once a week is just fine, but I feel measurements are a more solid way of seeing progress.

Also from the amount that you post here, aren't you weighing in more than once a week?

Yes, I weigh every two days. I was just editing my previous post when you posted. Take a look at what the specific study I linked to in my edit found.

I do not measure regularly. Just pants size lets me know I went from tight fitting 38 to properly fitting 32 and a belt I could not wear before is now on the 4th hole.

Originally Posted by UpDownAround

Yes, I weigh every two days. I was just editing my previous post when you posted. Take a look at what the specific study I linked to in my edit found.

I do not measure regularly. Just pants size lets me know I went from tight fitting 38 to properly fitting 32 and a belt I could not wear before is now on the 4th hole.

Congratulations on your success so far!

I just haven't had that big of an appetite lately. The last time I looked I had lost 2 lbs. Today I'll be weighed at my annual gynecologist appointment, but with all of my clothes. I don't think I'll weight much more than what I weighed last year when I was there, but probably not less.

Hubby has been trying to lose weight. That has inspired me to cook lighter.

[Cocosurviving]

MFP daily calories 1,228. Apple Watch steps 7,257. Water intake 34oz. Worked out for thirty minutes on the treadmill. I have not weighed myself in three weeks. I hate doing it, it gives me anxiety but I’m going to this Monday.

[Tucson]

I weigh about 178. I probably weigh maybe a bit more since this time I wore less clothes without anything in the pockets. My calorie intake was about 2200 calories. I had a slice of pie during the afternoon, but adjusted the remaining meals accordingly. My next goal is to stop this eating of a slice of pie every day, and instead eat healthier foods.

As an aside, as you can see, my recent posts of the chart of food that I ate for the day is longer than the list of food items itself. This leaves that blank space at the bottom. I have not been manually cropping the image from MFP. My software now automates all of this with this one disadvantage.

[Tucson]

My weight is 181 today. My weight goes up and down. Which weight do I believe? Perhaps I should supplement my weigh scale with body measurements? I will have to find the appropriate tape measure for this. I have started the day off with french toast. I may mix up things by having soup for lunch instead of for dinner. Since soup by itself is not allot of calories, I think I will have a yogurt smoothie too.

[Zigy]

Originally Posted by hopeless2015

I'm going to have to quit following this thread. It's too triggering with the daily weight ins and ,5 oz weight gain a day or .5 is weight loss. Should you be weighing every single day? I'm sorry, I'm not here to judge anyone, but i am worried that this is becoming obsessive. I want you all to be healthy and happy. Please don't be offended by my comment...jusy really triggered tonight. Please accept my hugs and healthy wishes!!

It does get obsessive.

People should not weigh themselves every day and count tenths of a pound. You should weigh yourself every week at most or just twice a month. Weight fluctuations of couple of pounds daily are normal.

[99fairies]

I'm 5 pounds away from goal. I have been eating solid food again.

[Guiness187055]

Originally Posted by Zigy

It does get obsessive.

People should not weigh themselves every day and count tenths of a pound. You should weigh yourself every week at most or just twice a month. Weight fluctuations of couple of pounds daily are normal.

I agree I weigh myself once a week. Water weight varies so much on a daily basis.

[UpDownAround]

Originally Posted by Zigy

It does get obsessive.

People should not weigh themselves every day and count tenths of a pound. You should weigh yourself every week at most or just twice a month. Weight fluctuations of couple of pounds daily are normal.

The data tells a different story about frequent weighing.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/...ubmed_RVDocSum

36.2% of participants reported weighing themselves at least once per day, and more frequent weighing was associated with lower BMI and higher scores on disinhibition and cognitive restraint

When I weighed infrequently after hitting goal, I had gained several pounds before I realized it. Then it became a decision to start dieting again, not just adjust for a couple of days and I put it off, gained more and then it seemed so far away I gave up again for a while.